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Pooka Fey

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162. LOL! Agreed!

Thu May 21, 2015, 07:59 AM

May 2015

Thanks for the laugh!

And since we're on the Cersei and Jamie sub-thread, why do people think that the twisted sex act on the tomb of their son was a 'rape'? Cersei is the dominant partner in that sicko 'relationship-like' entity; I've never had the impression that Jamie is 'into' Cersei, he's just "trapped" by his evil family dynamic, IMO.

I swore I would quit watching the uber-perverted GOT at the end of Season 1, because the Zombie Walkers idea just pushed way beyond my 'suspension of disbelief' tolerance. Then I swore I would quit after watching the Theon torture scene - well, hearing it because I had to turn my head away from the TV screen.

Well, I'm still watching that grotesque show; I've become mesmerized by it. My reason is Tyrion Lannister. What an amazing character! I cheered when Tyrion shot his cruel arrogant bastard father sitting on the loo. I love the actor, Peter Dinklage. What a discovery! Yup, GOT fan right here.

Gonna watch this week's show on TV on Demand tonight!

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Viewers Are Quitting 'Game Of Thrones' After That Controversial Scene [View all] Lunabell May 2015 OP

Castration ok, torture, ok. Bloody killing of children, men and women, ok. Bonobo May 2015 #1

It's like they've never read the books. bravenak May 2015 #4

That scene diverged really far from the book. *SPOILERS, OBVIOUSLY* LeftyMom May 2015 #5

The only difference is the character it happens to. bravenak May 2015 #6

Like the stuff at Craster's keep. geek tragedy May 2015 #43

Dany's situation was far more troubling to me. dawg May 2015 #46

The way she was trying so hard to please him. I did not appreciate that. bravenak May 2015 #56

Hey, at least in the show she was of legal age. Arkana May 2015 #83

No shit. That was sick. bravenak May 2015 #86

But in these kinds of societies it was the norm Blue_Adept May 2015 #89

Yeah, it still gives me pause at first. bravenak May 2015 #90

Yeah, the fear of the writer dying is always a concern here Blue_Adept May 2015 #93

the book was worse samsingh May 2015 #52

I agree. bravenak May 2015 #55

this did not shock me - it's what i've come to expect from that universe samsingh May 2015 #71

Me too. bravenak May 2015 #74

maybe next season samsingh May 2015 #87

He (grrm) says that he's trying to get th next book done before the next season. bravenak May 2015 #91

"WRITE, MOTHER##$#ER, WRITE!" Warren DeMontague May 2015 #150

They messed up Sansa's development last season LittleBlue May 2015 #10

Maybe. Or maybe the writers were actually trying to be sensitive about the nature of the scene by Warren DeMontague May 2015 #17

Just admit it, it's turning into a crapfest. :-) seaglass May 2015 #36

GoT lost me after the first season. ananda May 2015 #59

No, the Dorne thing was weak, but it's kind of typical of what happens with the writers when they Warren DeMontague May 2015 #143

I agree with this... one_voice May 2015 #99

Theon being forced to watch may be an important plot point, however, dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #29

It can indeed, be rather difficult to realize different triggers affect different people. LanternWaste May 2015 #44

Or it could be extreme disregard for everything except what concerns you. Bonobo May 2015 #50

I would ask you to elaborate. NCTraveler May 2015 #104

She's a fictional character LittleBlue May 2015 #2

Rape doesn't have to happen to a real person in order to be disgusting and repulsive. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #14

Yes, they are. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #18

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober May 2015 #42

hey leave sheldon alone!! yodermon May 2015 #48

Plus, I'm not sure why a show that treats smart people like they're some sort of freaks Warren DeMontague May 2015 #158

I always refer to that show as Amos n Andy with "smart" people CBGLuthier May 2015 #160

We're saying that this is a particularly strange hill to die on, Arkana May 2015 #84

Yeah, I got that. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #97

It is a "to each their own" type situation. Jamastiene May 2015 #134

You may end up disappointed Blue_Adept May 2015 #138

Yeah. catrose May 2015 #102

Who said they weren't allowed? You're putting words in my mouth LittleBlue May 2015 #105

"Incontinent" opinions? Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #110

The autocorrect on my Samsung is the worst I've ever owned LittleBlue May 2015 #113

And I contend that you aren't going to find any explanation 'good' enough to suit you. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #114

I already have one that fits LittleBlue May 2015 #118

Wow. So you're equating disgust and revulsion at violent rape to being merely a Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #119

I think the point is that cemaphonic May 2015 #184

So when Ramsay murdered a woman that was ok with them? n/t PoliticAverse May 2015 #3

Or when he castrated Theon... SomethingFishy May 2015 #151

Umm...what about the incestual rape last season in front of the corpse of their child? Behind the Aegis May 2015 #7

The weird thing there is, it wasn't WRITTEN as rape Scootaloo May 2015 #11

That indeed was creepy....Jamie and Cersie... FarPoint May 2015 #16

I think you mean "incestual" Warren DeMontague May 2015 #19

Yup. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #21

I took 5 years of Spanish, and if I needed to order a snack in Mexico right now Warren DeMontague May 2015 #23

Thank you for a good cleansing hearty laugh! n/t djean111 May 2015 #37

"Incestuous" is the word we're looking for Pooka Fey May 2015 #32

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LOL! Agreed! Pooka Fey May 2015 #162

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My take on the "controversial" episode 6 Sansa rape scene Pooka Fey May 2015 #169

I think the point of Game of Thrones is to make you uncomfortable with war IVoteDFL May 2015 #8

My boyfriend left that show playing all night long giftedgirl77 May 2015 #9

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It was thrown at me in a cup, by a dwarf at a soccer game.., giftedgirl77 May 2015 #30

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See & with all the violence in GOT there was none of that giftedgirl77 May 2015 #148

That is one of my most favorite movies of all time. Buscemi gets more and more aggravated KittyWampus May 2015 #153

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ROFLMAO Pooka Fey May 2015 #164

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You might have been merging "Glee" with "Game of Thrones." Arugula Latte May 2015 #101

Lol, that's terrible. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #103

They should all read this article CBGLuthier May 2015 #12

Should that author having trigger warnings for the word trigger warning? kcr May 2015 #34

I don't know if I'll stop watching but it is no longer a must see. I am a book reader and it is seaglass May 2015 #13

No they aren't. PeteSelman May 2015 #15

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When Dr Melfi got raped in "The Sopranos" that was pretty disturbing too. Nye Bevan May 2015 #24

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watching a pirated copy is actually not illegal. fyi. nt woolldog May 2015 #189

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save me from these righteous folks:"rape here, like in all instances, is not a necessary cali May 2015 #26

What an interesting threshold. Eko May 2015 #27

Nonsense. I have the feeling most of the ppl aren't viewers anyways. Oneironaut May 2015 #28

I watched the first 2 episodes of GoT and that was enough for me justiceischeap May 2015 #31

Theon? The guy who's dick was cut off? alphafemale May 2015 #33

Two points demwing May 2015 #35

huh? I don't think it could have been any clearer that it was rape. cali May 2015 #40

As I said demwing May 2015 #62

It's not Sansa killing Ramsey LittleBlue May 2015 #107

All this will probable be cleared up next Sunday night demwing May 2015 #116

Oh FFS. JTFrog May 2015 #53

Get off the high horse demwing May 2015 #61

Maybe when I'm done puking. JTFrog May 2015 #66

It's fiction demwing May 2015 #68

It's a message board JTFrog May 2015 #70

Say what you like demwing May 2015 #72

Be as gross as you want. JTFrog May 2015 #73

Your magnanimity is inspirational demwing May 2015 #77

I've never watched GOT... brooklynite May 2015 #58

Reading versus watching Blue_Adept May 2015 #65

it was most definitely rape. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #141

It's worse in the book, if memory serves. WilliamPitt May 2015 #38

The Sansa storyline is made up by the show writers - she did not go to Winterfell and marry Ramsay seaglass May 2015 #49

You may be right WilliamPitt May 2015 #54

You are right. It was the girl pretending to be Arya. bravenak May 2015 #76

"And it was way way way worse in the book." WilliamPitt May 2015 #80

You're a writer, do you think it makes any difference which character it happened to? seaglass May 2015 #94

Rape is rape. WilliamPitt May 2015 #96

Yes of course rape is rape. I am probably not articulating this very well. Would it seaglass May 2015 #98

I think I know what you're saying NewJeffCT May 2015 #175

You're right Krytan11c May 2015 #63

Jeyne Pool's story is one of, if not the most, tragic in the books. herding cats May 2015 #88

Exactly Krytan11c May 2015 #92

It was disturbing. To me it points out how arranged geek tragedy May 2015 #39

yeah, that flashed through my mind to. cali May 2015 #41

I mean, how was that wedding night supposed to go? geek tragedy May 2015 #45

no kidding. it was actually the first thing I though of when cali May 2015 #47

Agree with both of your comments. IMO at the least, art has a right to describe all aspects of life. stevenleser May 2015 #51

You have it just right. bravenak May 2015 #57

The big objection, imo, is that they subjected a prominent geek tragedy May 2015 #67

*Book spoiler* About Sansa's potential book husband LittleBlue May 2015 #109

It was pretty tame, compared to what I expected demwing May 2015 #117

really? let's predict the massive drop in next week's audience numbers then... whatthehey May 2015 #60

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From what I read on wiki... Baitball Blogger May 2015 #64

I quit watching many many series after watching the first episode. Mostly for blah-ness. djean111 May 2015 #69

Lucky for me I'm not paying an insane cable bill workinclasszero May 2015 #75

One persons filth is not anothers Blue_Adept May 2015 #79

She consented to marry him mainstreetonce May 2015 #81

How did she know it would be an ugly wedding night? Ilsa May 2015 #121

Was she the only person to not know about him skinning people? Goblinmonger May 2015 #122

How would she have known? Ilsa May 2015 #125

House Bolton's sigil is a flayed man geek tragedy May 2015 #128

Okay, I must have missed some of the Ilsa May 2015 #136

I'm not saying it wasn't rape Goblinmonger May 2015 #129

Yes, he told her that. But Baelisch also needed Ilsa May 2015 #137

Why This? HassleCat May 2015 #78

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I try to remind myself when I see this stuff: "It's GRRM, that's how he writes." Arkana May 2015 #82

It didn't happen in the book. It's gratuitous and therefore it's disgusting. I don't know why OregonBlue May 2015 #85

It just happened to a different character Goblinmonger May 2015 #120

I have read the books. Twice. It is gratuitous. Not necessary to the story. OregonBlue May 2015 #126

Well, it is to a different character Goblinmonger May 2015 #130

As a twice reader of the books, you should know Ramsay Bolton is a gentle lover. AngryAmish May 2015 #171

I'll expect a big uptick in riveting Monday morning Masterpiece Theater water cooler conversations. bluedigger May 2015 #95

no one is glorifying it Marrah_G May 2015 #100

I think it's just the straw that broke... Feron May 2015 #106

I tend to agree -- it's the cumulative disdain for the way the showrunners have made it Gormy Cuss May 2015 #108

Apparently, this makes you "incontinent". Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #111

For me, the story is bogged down. Ilsa May 2015 #123

I have only read the first two books of "A Song of Ice and Fire" LostOne4Ever May 2015 #112

Not shocking if you've read the books abelenkpe May 2015 #115

People missed the entire point of the scene/arc Prism May 2015 #124

Exactly Blue_Adept May 2015 #131

Great analysis. joshcryer May 2015 #145

+1 Pooka Fey May 2015 #165

At the point Myranda told her that NewJeffCT May 2015 #173

violence, including rape, can be depicted on the screen without all of the horrid details Doctor_J May 2015 #188

Given what's already happened on the show (and the books are much worse), hughee99 May 2015 #127

ooooo, but it's Edgy��. I would have preferred a streaking farter. Eleanors38 May 2015 #132

All 6 viewers that are quitting will be dwarved by the 100s that now show up Township75 May 2015 #133

To each their own. Jamastiene May 2015 #135

Zero thirty showed torture on the screen and got a thumbs down lovuian May 2015 #139

this is literally the stupidest reason to quit GOT. first of all this rape La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #140

Plus, they are acting like it is the first rape on the show. Jamastiene May 2015 #155

As somebody that's read the series 3 times NewJeffCT May 2015 #174

I feel the same way about that story line, especially. Jamastiene May 2015 #177

Why are depictions of violence against men tolerated? Yavin4 May 2015 #142

How are people quitting the show before the next episode airs. Travis_0004 May 2015 #146

I have never watched this show and now I know RebelOne May 2015 #147

Same here. No interest in it for me. 840high May 2015 #176

As a man I was sickened and appalled by that final scene. dilby May 2015 #156

It's normal for viewers to drop off SoCalDem May 2015 #159

There is not going to be a drop off in views. joshcryer May 2015 #161

You would think, but this show has been brutalizing its characters cemaphonic May 2015 #185

The vapors I tell ya... sendero May 2015 #163

I'm going to assume romanic May 2015 #166

I'll bet these viewers who are quitting GoT are the same viewers ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #170

Isn't watching "GoT" superior to watching "American Idol"? Aren't its viewers more sophisticated? WinkyDink May 2015 #172

I intend to still watch Gothmog May 2015 #178

No, they are not. Rape is a weapon this has been used against humanity since time began. Pisces May 2015 #179

Yeah, and I'll bet that lots of viewers quit Titus Andronicus after the Lavinia scene. Orrex May 2015 #180

And the line was not crossed earlier? Generic Brad May 2015 #181

I'm curious. NaturalHigh May 2015 #182

We'll see... AnnieBW May 2015 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #186

The interweb has turned people into children. AtomicKitten May 2015 #187

Despite trying a half dozen times I could never get into this show aint_no_life_nowhere May 2015 #190

My biggest complaint with Game of Thrones is the lighting. Most scenes are so dark B Calm May 2015 #192