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meaculpa2011

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244. There has to be a solution somewhere between...

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:20 AM

Aug 2015

what we're doing now and what was done in the past, i.e. snake pits.

I'm not referring to this case specifically. I don't know enough, although I have had experience with loved ones who exhibit the "yes, but" syndrome. Whenever anyone tried to help or suggest a productive solution, the reaction was always, "Yes, but..."

Years ago I took the advice of professionals and placed my son in what was called The Adolescent Pavilion. When I asked how long he would have to stay, the bureaucrat in charge told me it depended on his insurance coverage. Before the 48-hour window closed, after which I would have had to take legal action to retrieve him, we took him out against medical advice. That was ten years ago.

He has a job. He has friends and family that love him. Yet every time anyone suggests that he follow a different path, he agrees and then explains why he can't.

While we're alive he'll have a roof over his head and food in the frig, but we're resigned that he will be our responsibility for life.

I'm afraid that if forced to be on his own... I don't want to think about it.

I weep for people like TTW who have exhausted the patience of those who tried to help.

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What can we DU now to help TTW and Yoshi ? [View all] J_J_ Aug 2015 OP

Post in the group of the state where they live shenmue Aug 2015 #1

Last I saw she was in a small room in between temp work and haikugal Aug 2015 #2

Yes, she apparently took Yoshi back. See... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #6

Thank You....sad but I don't think there is a lot we can do. haikugal Aug 2015 #9

Yes, according to msanthrope, cwydro Aug 2015 #8

I read one comment yesterday with that accusation. haikugal Aug 2015 #10

TTW took the dog back into her possession and control. Mariana Aug 2015 #12

I am not questioning that. Just knowing what we've been told these many months haikugal Aug 2015 #14

This is a case Aerows Aug 2015 #150

Everyone wonders why TTW isn't acting rationally. Well, she can't. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #224

Agree. Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #236

There is a lot of truth to this post. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #239

I think she's going to meet up with the system gwheezie Aug 2015 #243

There has to be a solution somewhere between... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #244

My heart goes out to you and your son. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #254

My wife and I are both 64... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #266

Sounds like a plan... mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #274

Your son seems like an exceptional... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #278

He is...I guess the extra dose of motivation mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #282

sorry to interrupt your post, but i have a question. without my contacts i am 20/400. does that mean dionysus Aug 2015 #411

This message was self-deleted by its author mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #275

Hey there..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #248

Not to be glib gwheezie Aug 2015 #252

Hey back... mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #261

Good post, thank you. I agree, everyone did what they could and we can't do more. haikugal Aug 2015 #334

This message was self-deleted by its author underahedgerow Aug 2015 #224

"just because something is legal, doesn't make it right." NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #349

I know you are talking about me: and you are deliberately misrepresentin me just like you daredtowork Aug 2015 #124

"if she's raving about a conspiracy to take Yoshi away from her: well that's true." Demit Aug 2015 #135

I was being facetious =.= daredtowork Aug 2015 #138

You can't claim you were misrepresented in one breath, Demit Aug 2015 #157

Ok so what's your point? daredtowork Aug 2015 #159

It's not an attack to show you your own words. Demit Aug 2015 #162

Again, what is your point? daredtowork Aug 2015 #175

I've made my point. You can't say you didn't accuse DUers of a conspiracy anymore. Demit Aug 2015 #190

I'm not accusing DUers of conspiracy daredtowork Aug 2015 #198

Definition of facetious------ 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #226

I think you are mistaking who is attacking who daredtowork Aug 2015 #230

Take a break, dear one. I suggested you chose the wrong 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #234

I am glad you posted this because you spoke my thoughts Tipperary Aug 2015 #235

Patience running far below zero. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #238

There is no need to forgive because you spoke the Tipperary Aug 2015 #240

I suspect the poster simply meant "sarcastic" magical thyme Aug 2015 #242

I also had to provide the definition of the word conspire daredtowork Aug 2015 #288

You just won't quit, will you? Take a xanax, or 2. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #293

Not everyone daredtowork Aug 2015 #297

Why don't you go back & fetch the proof of your allegations? Demit Aug 2015 #299

I'm not at your beck and call. Wait all day. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #302

That's ok, I figured you'd rather continue making things up. Demit Aug 2015 #308

perhaps the best help you could offer, is be a contact if the worse happens and the dog is Sunlei Aug 2015 #250

I wish I could daredtowork Aug 2015 #289

I understand what you mean. A lot of times the actual sign over the animals 'ownership' is the Sunlei Aug 2015 #292

Hi - wanna say that I understood your "conspiracy" post in the other Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #352

I agree, and I know they need help darkangel218 Aug 2015 #3

I may sound harsh but... haikugal Aug 2015 #7

If we could help her get a safe housing, for both her and Yoshi, darkangel218 Aug 2015 #11

So do I, however I don't think it's going to happen with them together. haikugal Aug 2015 #13

Yoshi can still be trained - there are obedience classes available darkangel218 Aug 2015 #15

I had to leave my Rottie when I moved into an apt..they don't take big dogs. haikugal Aug 2015 #17

I guarantee you that there are plenty of places who will allow big dogs darkangel218 Aug 2015 #18

i Don't think the issue is just the size of the dog JI7 Aug 2015 #22

The issue is she doesn't have the money and darkangel218 Aug 2015 #23

Nobody is going to rent to her with no job. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #218

How about posting some of those places so I can see how wrong I am. haikugal Aug 2015 #24

Are you trying to tell me that no one in Philadelphia ( and suburbs ) will rent a place darkangel218 Aug 2015 #25

Yes... haikugal Aug 2015 #27

So you think that's the reason TTW doesn't have a place of her own yet? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #33

You aren't making a lot of sense here darkangle218.. haikugal Aug 2015 #35

You are the one not making sense. How can you say that there are no places darkangel218 Aug 2015 #76

A landlord can be liable Aerows Aug 2015 #155

First, it's almost impossible to get a place without showing proof of income. Demit Aug 2015 #74

You can get a month to month + deposit place. Leases are not always necessary. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #77

Not with the eviction on her record. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #81

Not all places check records. Especially in the suburbs, maybe even country side darkangel218 Aug 2015 #87

Then do it. Find a place for her to stay, get the numbers and report back asking the community PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #90

I leave that to those who have time. I will contribute financially darkangel218 Aug 2015 #94

But you have time to post here? You could be looking right now. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #95

Without money?? What good would it do? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #98

Get the numbers and report back asking the community for the money. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #100

If there is will, there is a way. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #103

Then do it. It's your bright idea. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #104

I said I can contribute money, not time. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #107

There apparently really isn't all that much will... Agschmid Aug 2015 #211

ask the community for MORE money Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #257

It looks like she has close to 2500 dollars already yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #161

That is over 4 months, and much of that was already dispensed and used some time ago. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #259

That's just an excuse. JTFrog Aug 2015 #216

Indeed.....shitholes, drug houses, and illegal landlords don't do checks. msanthrope Aug 2015 #93

In fairness where I live now, which is none of those things, didn't do a check dsc Aug 2015 #182

Well, to be fair.....you have no idea what was done. msanthrope Aug 2015 #249

when I was on the streets, its fairly easy to find lodging when you work for room and board. Sunlei Aug 2015 #253

They are available. I wonder if that would suit TTW. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #272

take a look in current craigs list for the city she is in/near.rooms to rent are listed there. Sunlei Aug 2015 #273

I've known of jobs that allowed someone to live on the premises, xmas74 Aug 2015 #355

I actually thought it was legit for anyone to deny based on lack of employment dsc Aug 2015 #276

It is. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #294

When was the last time you rented a place Lilith Rising Aug 2015 #279

You're right, of course pipi_k Aug 2015 #331

Do find this landlord who will rent month-to-month, in a neighborhood that suits TTW. LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #82

No you can't. Demit Aug 2015 #102

craigs list always has very cheap rooms for rent and many will take a large dog. Sunlei Aug 2015 #251

Dog or no dog. No one is going to rent to a person with no income and an eviction on her record. I Tipperary Aug 2015 #287

you're so right about rentals. even around the houston area most rentals are no pets, some have Sunlei Aug 2015 #247

TTW already has a Go Fund Me page mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #19

No, a Go Fund me for her, but managed by DU. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #21

DU would have to pay her rent for the years to come. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #38

I agree. She's desparately in need of mental health help and until she accepts that beaglelover Aug 2015 #39

I seem to remember daredtowork Aug 2015 #209

I agree. I feel bad everytime I see a post from her. bravenak Aug 2015 #49

So now you want to raise funds for housing AND obedience classes? KittyWampus Aug 2015 #42

^ Enabling. TBF Aug 2015 #48

You call putting a roof over a homeless person head "enabling''?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #78

Exactly. ....so why take Yoshi there? nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #79

I have nothing further to say to someone who thinks fiding safe housing for a homeless person darkangel218 Aug 2015 #83

You have me confused with another poster on this thread......that sorta ruins the exit. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #99

I don't care for "exits". Not surprised you do though. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #101

I think everyone knows your stance on "exits" tammywammy Aug 2015 #106

What is your solution for TTW?? Hm?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #109

I think she needs serious help and intervention tammywammy Aug 2015 #114

well that is about the same as your demand Kali Aug 2015 #122

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #125

..you should see her on DI... different handle.. same drama... dionysus Aug 2015 #421

! Kali Aug 2015 #133

Msanthrope has learned the hard way that an unstable person is insisting on keeping pnwmom Aug 2015 #169

She promised she would keep Yoshi, yet they surrendered him to a kill shelter 2 days later!! darkangel218 Aug 2015 #171

They surrendered her to a shelter where the dog would only have to stay for 3 days, pnwmom Aug 2015 #173

That wasn't definite. Don't make things up, that the rescue would have certainly picked him up! darkangel218 Aug 2015 #177

go to bed, now Kali Aug 2015 #180

They told TTW exactly where to go to get her dog. So what if she had to pick him up pnwmom Aug 2015 #227

Ok... This is getting silly. Adrahil Aug 2015 #255

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #212

Darkangel, have you met this woman? TBF Aug 2015 #262

the shelter he was at has professional dog training magical thyme Aug 2015 #270

Agreed ellie Aug 2015 #55

I usually give to these things. roody Aug 2015 #28

There already is a GFM, but it hasn't collected much in 4 months--and most of that has been tblue37 Aug 2015 #256

there's been over $1,000 collected in the last 6 days magical thyme Aug 2015 #268

Yes. When I posted the thread a couple of days ago about Yoshi's plight in that doggie daycare, tblue37 Aug 2015 #280

I'm aware of the history of TTW and Yoshi magical thyme Aug 2015 #281

I absolutely agree. I wish I knew how to make that happen! nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #285

So she maybe able to overpay her way into temp housing that she cannot afford. bettyellen Aug 2015 #286

I began reading some of the earlier threads through links that another posted here. I did notice Tipperary Aug 2015 #290

She can't take 'responsibility' for her actions. She's mentally ill. Most likely a schizophrenic underahedgerow Aug 2015 #329

which is why many have concluded that throwing money at the problem will not solve it.... bettyellen Aug 2015 #337

I see two few choices seveneyes Aug 2015 #4

I'm in if someone can take it up. Please let me know. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #26

people have tried to help JI7 Aug 2015 #5

ttw took away the help that was given to yoshi JI7 Aug 2015 #16

Yoshi wouldn't have stood a chance to be adopted. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #20

Rescue groups are expert at retraining dogs. roody Aug 2015 #29

It was a good chance for Yoshi. nt haikugal Aug 2015 #30

Things do not look good at at for Yoshi now avebury Aug 2015 #32

I agree, it is sad and all it takes is one bite and he's a dangerous dog with an irresponsible owner haikugal Aug 2015 #34

Yep, by taking the dog back TTW has dramatically shortened the poor thing's life. beaglelover Aug 2015 #36

That's not true....and look at what you are saying..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #50

Up thread she claims the dog could be trained Texasgal Aug 2015 #56

This floors me..... the logic of it.....TTW is now msanthrope Aug 2015 #60

big mistake Kali Aug 2015 #65

You said it yourself that your ex couldn't keep the dog not even 1 week darkangel218 Aug 2015 #72

I think the Akita breed experts, who thought he was adoptable, should have been listened to. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #84

Her ex couldn't keep Yoshi for reasons not relating to him being unadoptable nadine_mn Aug 2015 #141

Yah whatever, I'm trying to come up with ways to help someone in need. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #71

You are talking to the person who has fed Yoshi for the last few months. My suggestion msanthrope Aug 2015 #89

I support both the dog and TTW. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #70

Where were you six months ago? Texasgal Aug 2015 #86

How do you know I haven't donated to TTW?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #91

I don't believe you. Texasgal Aug 2015 #96

Go check other people in Pets group who I have donated to and signed with my name instead of annonum darkangel218 Aug 2015 #105

So check with other people you've made donations to you prove you donated to someone else? tammywammy Aug 2015 #108

I donate to people /causes I care for. And I don't have to make darkangel218 Aug 2015 #110

I have no "vitriol" for TTW. tammywammy Aug 2015 #119

You cannot be believed. Texasgal Aug 2015 #123

I could care less if someone like you "believes" me. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #127

Ummm.. okay. Texasgal Aug 2015 #130

LOL! Texasgal Aug 2015 #113

fyi tritsofme Aug 2015 #153

the other one was a bad hide Kali Aug 2015 #158

We might as well argue that she has a right to carry around a loaded gun. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #166

Not if he's never given time to calm and adjust... Adrahil Aug 2015 #52

He was going to be taken in by an Akita rescue. tammywammy Aug 2015 #61

I've seen rescues rehab drug house dogs. Placed in suburban homes after rehab( of course Person 2713 Aug 2015 #136

I understand why TTW views Yoshi as family but she avebury Aug 2015 #31

Or we can assume gwheezie Aug 2015 #37

I am thinking more and more that this is a mental health issue Marrah_G Aug 2015 #40

I think this is the case. haikugal Aug 2015 #41

I've had my own struggles Marrah_G Aug 2015 #44

I agree and if the animal is her anchor I understand, however....*sigh* haikugal Aug 2015 #46

It's hard, but as it is, she is not willing to take the steps that MUST be taken. Adrahil Aug 2015 #53

I'm not sure there is anything we can do, beyond trying to help some financially Marrah_G Aug 2015 #54

I sent her money before. I'd be willing help more, IF... Adrahil Aug 2015 #64

I've believed this several threads back. gwheezie Aug 2015 #43

I do agree Marrah_G Aug 2015 #45

I think people have several tipping points gwheezie Aug 2015 #57

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #164

When Moose put up the thread on Sunday in the GFM acct it said $1300+ had been collected. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #223

The fact that people continue to give money to this person alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #415

I agree. What 840high Aug 2015 #152

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #165

There is a point where you are no longer helping, but are enabling. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #47

This is very true. haikugal Aug 2015 #62

Exactly. You said it more tactfully than I'm able to. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #186

I wish that I could offer a place for her and Yoshi to live together IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #51

It reminds me that we are all just bricks in the same wall ... seveneyes Aug 2015 #58

She needs more than money at this point gwheezie Aug 2015 #59

I agree...at this point I think money would enable rather than help. haikugal Aug 2015 #63

I once co-signed a loan for a fellow (1963) 1939 Aug 2015 #66

I bought a guy some steel toed boots. missingthebigdog Aug 2015 #156

Oy vey! Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #67

More money is the answer alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #68

The grail of money can lead in many directions seveneyes Aug 2015 #69

Even assuming that you could, doesn't that just put her back where she was in February? Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #73

Thanks for this, you just put word to all my thoughts regarding this situation. haikugal Aug 2015 #88

This encapsulates everything......thank you.....nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #117

very good post Kali Aug 2015 #128

Good explanation. betsuni Aug 2015 #137

Thank for this nadine_mn Aug 2015 #143

Yeah, in some ways Akitas are very like German Shepherds. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #170

After your #73 post I went looking for everything I could find on Akitas. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #220

Probably the smartest post yet. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #207

Exactly. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #403

I hope someone(s) can take up my suggestion to set up a Go Fund Me for TTW darkangel218 Aug 2015 #75

Please feel free to put your credit on the line for her. REP Aug 2015 #85

So melman Aug 2015 #92

"Not the best DU can do, but don't I don't want to invest in the time to do anything" tammywammy Aug 2015 #97

Right? Texasgal Aug 2015 #112

If you stop posting online for half a day Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #115

Dear darkangel, just IMHO, you need to take a time out. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #214

Someone did that long ago. It can still be used, but it won't solve her problems. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #229

Why don't you set up the GoFundMe?... SidDithers Aug 2015 #283

I think the best thing that DUers can do is back off. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #80

Your suggestion is spot on. janlyn Aug 2015 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #277

Years ago there was a concerted and unsuccesful effort to help a DUer named "bobbolink." Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #316

Find someone who lives nearby daredtowork Aug 2015 #111

This has been done already! Texasgal Aug 2015 #116

I was HERE in February or was it April? daredtowork Aug 2015 #118

Well, if you were helping in the background Texasgal Aug 2015 #121

I also posted in the threads daredtowork Aug 2015 #129

Um..... You said exactly that. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #132

I was being facetious! >.< daredtowork Aug 2015 #139

You said: PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #140

+1 n/t tammywammy Aug 2015 #142

Look at the facts daredtowork Aug 2015 #144

My point was: you did, in fact, say there was a conspiracy to take Yoshi. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #145

That was because THEY were using the word conspiracy. daredtowork Aug 2015 #149

+1 darkangel218 Aug 2015 #146

You're skipping over the most important parts. pnwmom Aug 2015 #163

How about use a crate/cage???? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #168

The "goofy lab owner" got in over his head in an effort to be kind pnwmom Aug 2015 #183

Keep a large AKITA cooped up in a crate 24/7 until TTW... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #204

I'm not skipping what the Ex did daredtowork Aug 2015 #179

I think everyone is just sad about this whole situation, daredtowork. pnwmom Aug 2015 #181

I had one thought daredtowork Aug 2015 #185

Someone here already offered to take her to their country home out of state. pnwmom Aug 2015 #188

In North Carolina daredtowork Aug 2015 #196

But the bottom line is that she is a stressed-out, unbalanced person pnwmom Aug 2015 #201

She probably was trying to get out of her "slumlord" place daredtowork Aug 2015 #208

The invitation was for Charleston, SC. cwydro Aug 2015 #298

I couldn't remember where it was daredtowork Aug 2015 #301

I can't speak for that poster, cwydro Aug 2015 #303

My worry would be daredtowork Aug 2015 #306

Even the places that are rural aren't that far from larger towns and cities. ladyVet Aug 2015 #413

Very true. cwydro Aug 2015 #419

SheilaT (and please spell my name correctly) SheilaT Aug 2015 #366

I could swear you said something along the lines of daredtowork Aug 2015 #369

I never said anything like that, least of all in connection SheilaT Aug 2015 #370

I don't think TTW is averse to those jobs daredtowork Aug 2015 #371

I certainly don't recall any reference to a job at a pharmacy, SheilaT Aug 2015 #372

Medication won't help with the employment problem daredtowork Aug 2015 #373

I don't recall the paralegal training, but I'll admit I SheilaT Aug 2015 #374

It might depend on where you live daredtowork Aug 2015 #375

TTW is in the Philadelphia area. SheilaT Aug 2015 #376

I am one of the people advocating case management daredtowork Aug 2015 #392

If I lived in the U.S. I'd love to volunteer in the kitchen. betsuni Aug 2015 #377

From 10+ years ago. Ms. Toad Aug 2015 #394

Great find! daredtowork Aug 2015 #395

and again, definition of being facetious......... 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #228

Since you cut and paste, I will repeat you are mistaken about who is attacking who daredtowork Aug 2015 #232

This life coach should offer no advice that doesn't agree with TTW, then? LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #126

I'm not sure where you are getting that daredtowork Aug 2015 #134

Yes, Yoshi is a family member - which is why so many are suggesting nadine_mn Aug 2015 #148

Well what sucks now daredtowork Aug 2015 #151

"While everyone is mocking how TTW responded..." WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #210

"conspiratorial thinking?" "ridiculous" "paranoid"? daredtowork Aug 2015 #213

"EVERYONE." (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #217

Not mocking to say she (and you) are engaged in magical thinking that MP shld have kept a dangerous bettyellen Aug 2015 #284

I think you might be answering the wrong person daredtowork Aug 2015 #291

Life coaches, dog trainers, dog walkers, a team of attorneys? Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #258

I know, right? It's beyond ridiculous. I've pretty much stayed out of the TTW Nay Aug 2015 #339

It's time for DU to move on. Lil Missy Aug 2015 #131

Agree 100% beaglelover Aug 2015 #154

yep, msanthrope et al did all they could steve2470 Aug 2015 #222

Could somebody open a window in here??? XRubicon Aug 2015 #147

Nothing, probably. The very responsible, caring DU person who tried to help her is now being attacked by her. pnwmom Aug 2015 #160

They could have put Yoshi in a crate darkangel218 Aug 2015 #167

The doggie daycare that TTW took her to did just that, and he was suffering in that crate. pnwmom Aug 2015 #172

And you think the shelter offered better?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #174

The shelter was just a necessary step to the Akita rescue. Yoshi was in no danger pnwmom Aug 2015 #176

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #178

The Rescue thought he had good potential and was willing to work with him. pnwmom Aug 2015 #184

BS, there was a danger to the daughter and other kids and pets . that's what professionals JI7 Aug 2015 #187

Keep him in a cage!! darkangel218 Aug 2015 #189

didn't you deceive with the stuff about being able to get an apartment that will accept her and the JI7 Aug 2015 #191

Deceive???NO! I said I didn't have the time to invest into coordinating that darkangel218 Aug 2015 #193

it doesn't take much longer than posting on DU JI7 Aug 2015 #194

It does, I'm not here on regular basis. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #197

! Kali Aug 2015 #199

just the time you are taking today for this should be enough JI7 Aug 2015 #200

It's not enough, if you manage an account. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #202

I thought you finished nursing school in 18 months? CreekDog Aug 2015 #326

How would he get sufficient exercise in the cage? The professional dog walker pnwmom Aug 2015 #192

How would he get excercise in the shelter cage????????? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #195

You're the one advocating for a cage. So why are you suggesting the ex should have bought a cage pnwmom Aug 2015 #203

Yoshi would be better off with TTW then killed by euthanasia. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #205

He wasn't at risk in the shelter. TTW knew where to pick him up, and she did. pnwmom Aug 2015 #231

I hope she has the sense to put a muzzle on him when they're out and about. MoonRiver Aug 2015 #300

That is a very good suggestion. haikugal Aug 2015 #338

this is so fucking bizarre JI7 Aug 2015 #206

Bizarre is the best way to describe that "logic" tammywammy Aug 2015 #241

At this point, I think you are just deliberately being dense and disruptive. ladyVet Aug 2015 #271

You seem to have my position on this entirely wrong. daredtowork Aug 2015 #305

"You seem to have my position on this entirely wrong." ladyVet Aug 2015 #416

Thank you for your reply daredtowork Aug 2015 #418

Not necessarily. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #336

I'm not blaming the dog at all. I completely agree that a stressed out owner pnwmom Aug 2015 #341

Well you said that the people who tried to help were misled notadmblnd Aug 2015 #361

alert results irisblue Aug 2015 #296

Well put pnwmom Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #400

If you keep on ohheckyeah Aug 2015 #215

Peace to all involved, from up close and from a distance. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #219

I agree ohheckyeah Aug 2015 #237

True, it is sad, but for longtime posters it is reminiscent of past 'emergency' threads Nay Aug 2015 #342

Oh goodness, this does bring back memories of bobbolink. :( n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #348

If Yoshi were a child LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #221

this is what DU helping looks like: foo_bar Aug 2015 #233

I chipped in a small amount at her gofundme site yesterday magical thyme Aug 2015 #245

perhaps the best thing may be get a service dog vest to her and have her train the dog Sunlei Aug 2015 #246

What you are suggesting is a federal crime. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #260

no it is not a crime to train your own service dog. And tell your Doctor all about it. Sunlei Aug 2015 #265

Getting the dog a service vest before it's trained is a crime. And that was your implication. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #267

no I use "the in training" patch on the service vest with a new dog or puppy. not a crime, sorry. Sunlei Aug 2015 #269

If you've been paying any attention at all to SheilaT Aug 2015 #368

By now it's obvious, the dog is her emotional support dog. Sunlei Aug 2015 #378

There's a difference between SheilaT Aug 2015 #380

actually the Akita did very well its past 2 -4 weeks. Handled by multi-strangers and some with Sunlei Aug 2015 #381

Actually, the Akita in question SheilaT Aug 2015 #382

Could have been much, much worse if the dog didn't inhibit using its teeth. Sunlei Aug 2015 #383

Been following this from a distance. My 2 cents, FWIW. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #263

Thank you gwheezie Aug 2015 #264

The TTW Subtext (Sorry if this is "calling you out") daredtowork Aug 2015 #295

And here you are again, precious. No time to go find 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #307

Well said. HappyMe Aug 2015 #310

If you think I have "loads of criticism", you must fall into one of 2 categories: daredtowork Aug 2015 #314

I think that you running through this thread HappyMe Aug 2015 #318

For two reasons daredtowork Aug 2015 #320

If you are accusing people of something, you need to prove it. HappyMe Aug 2015 #323

There seems to be more and more people coming on to this thread daredtowork Aug 2015 #327

She has her dog back. HappyMe Aug 2015 #328

You are falsely accusing me of accusing others daredtowork Aug 2015 #332

STOP!! For everyone's sake, just stop. You aren't helping TTW or Yoshi or anyone else, yourself haikugal Aug 2015 #340

I've been asking others to stop pestering me about it daredtowork Aug 2015 #350

No one forced you to do any of the things you've done... haikugal Aug 2015 #353

What are you talking about? daredtowork Aug 2015 #357

You keep repeating yourself because you can't accept it's over. haikugal Aug 2015 #358

No, it's the false accusations daredtowork Aug 2015 #362

Please see post 343 7two7rees mistook you for darkangel218 sketchy Aug 2015 #360

Thank you, I thought some misunderstanding was going on there. daredtowork Aug 2015 #363

In Other News daredtowork Aug 2015 #364

Glad to hear it. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #367

I'm not sure what's going on with you daredtowork Aug 2015 #311

No, daredtowork, darling, you don't get to turn it back on me. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #315

You must be in a different time zone because daredtowork Aug 2015 #319

Okay, I begged you!! At the extreme risk of being banned 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #322

I'm sorry you see this as me "winning" daredtowork Aug 2015 #324

OH PLEASE..... go take another nap. You sound sleep still and groggy. You need to take care of YOU trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #345

Now that's a turn around daredtowork Aug 2015 #356

You seem to be confusing two posters Ms. Toad Aug 2015 #343

I'm so glad you said something... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #344

Yeah, same here n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2015 #346

Thank You daredtowork Aug 2015 #359

Seems pretty darn reasonable and wise. nt 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #304

Me, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #309

Here's the rub daredtowork Aug 2015 #313

There seems to be some confusion vs. the shelter and the rescue org. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #317

Yes I actually retyped that daredtowork Aug 2015 #321

One last post, you yourself, have never actually been in 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #325

I PM'd her several times daredtowork Aug 2015 #330

Excellent post - emergency funds for a car repair, for example Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #354

My point exactly. Thank you. n/t AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #365

Send money guns and lawyers. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #312

Donate more money indisciminantly. nt LexVegas Aug 2015 #333

To be fair, Codeine Aug 2015 #335

Just curious - what was that about? NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #347

PM headed your way. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #351

Can you send me the same pm.........I linked to a OP for him, and I think I'll msanthrope Aug 2015 #379

At least the "criminal" is willing to do what it takes... Adrahil Aug 2015 #397

At the risk of incurring wrath from all sides Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #384

Your point being... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #385

My point being... Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #386

Not really... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #387

I agree with you on all points. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #388

I think sufficient money would have been "enough" to keep her in her (then) current situation PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #393

More thoughts on "throwing money at the problem" sketchy Aug 2015 #389

It would be interesting to see Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #390

Here is the paragraph that came from, to get the context of it sketchy Aug 2015 #391

I don't think that "throwing money" is the right frame. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #402

I've had pets my whole life..... Adrahil Aug 2015 #398

Well, For Starters RobinA Aug 2015 #399

I have heard from TTW. They are both safe. magical thyme Aug 2015 #396

Thank you for posting this. That's very good news. crazylikafox Aug 2015 #401

I'd like to hear more when you have permission please. PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #404

they are not safe. TTW is living in a place msanthrope Aug 2015 #405

They released Yoshi to your ex and TTW without being paid? cwydro Aug 2015 #406

They are good and decent people. msanthrope Aug 2015 #407

I posted a suggestion that someone contact the Pennsylvania SPCA mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #408

I'm too close to the situation to make a rational decision regarding that..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #409

I hope Yoshi is seeing a vet for his bowel problems and kennel cough. Damn. bettyellen Aug 2015 #414

I think you've got the correct solution. Vinca Aug 2015 #412

Wait melman Aug 2015 #410

I want to be happy about that, because at least he's not on the streets. ladyVet Aug 2015 #417

Just curious: Where is the OP? Off to start a third thread? Hekate Aug 2015 #420