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aikoaiko

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121. I'll quote you.

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:20 PM

Oct 2015

Now, thanks to the PLCAA, you can only sue if the gun doesn't kill somebody or malfunctions. It would be funny if it were not so murderously sickening.

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Manufacturers and dealers can be sued for much more than that, but it is true that PLCAA does provide some unique protections.

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BREAKING:10 dead, 20 injured at shooting at Umpqua Comm.College in Oregon [View all] Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 OP

JESUS!!!!!!!!! help this county bigdarryl Oct 2015 #1

It's a bit quick to have those statistics already. I question whether CNN is accurate at this stage. randome Oct 2015 #2

CNN says Oregon police have confirmed the numbers. nt Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #5

American exceptionalism. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #3

Cue the Lee Greenwood. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #37

Active shooting reported at Umpqua Community College mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2015 #4

FUCK. THIS. SHIT. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #6

Hospital reporting they are preparing for unknown number of casualties. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #7

Congrats again you sick fucking gun nuts villager Oct 2015 #8

That would be cognitive DISSONANCE, methinks... LAGC Oct 2015 #27

I will amend the copy, thanks villager Oct 2015 #28

+10000 whathehell Oct 2015 #55

Gun enthusiasts - the biggest group of terrorists on the planet. Initech Oct 2015 #64

Death Eaters, all villager Oct 2015 #69

Yep Nevernose Oct 2015 #74

Agree. Fuck these gun humpers and their reign of terror over this country. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #92

+1000 nt abelenkpe Oct 2015 #99

Thank you ellisonz Oct 2015 #108

Some reports now saying 15 dead. Brickbat Oct 2015 #9

Live News Stream blogslut Oct 2015 #10

They are calling for all agents from law enforcement agencies Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #11

Just another school shooting... liberal N proud Oct 2015 #12

No longer active shooting Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #13

Another Teabagger driven nuts by Trump AngryAmish Oct 2015 #14

Shooter is bi-racial. 840high Oct 2015 #127

Racists groups all collect token members- as do sexists, etc... bettyellen Oct 2015 #136

May they RIP. :( romanic Oct 2015 #15

Shit. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #16

What's the blackout time for ~15 dead? Nailzberg Oct 2015 #17

Now is the perfect time for that discussion. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #19

WTF ... over and over and over etherealtruth Oct 2015 #18

Let's get this over with Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #20

They think the death toll will rise. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #21

Good news so far no guns were injured or damaged! A few dead folks is a small price to pay for the YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #22

The local official talking to CNN is very upset. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #23

how could you be OK after that :-( ? etherealtruth Oct 2015 #31

True. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #33

Yeah, I suspect some (maybe most) are in a state of shock :-( etherealtruth Oct 2015 #35

Horrible LittleBlue Oct 2015 #24

It broke out in the science building. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #25

One of the commenters on Raw Story maryellen99 Oct 2015 #26

60 percent of all community college students are women. Brickbat Oct 2015 #42

Isn't that about the norm? Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #45

Just another day in the land of the Second Amendment RandySF Oct 2015 #29

As the father of a college student revmclaren Oct 2015 #30

I hear you, as the mother of college students in Michigan etherealtruth Oct 2015 #32

Same here as the father of a communty colege sudent gopiscrap Oct 2015 #87

such a horrible commentary on our society that you have to wthink about this etherealtruth Oct 2015 #89

I agree we were in Europe for 6 weeks this summer gopiscrap Oct 2015 #111

Same here. AngryOldDem Oct 2015 #40

Yup. Both my kids are in classes today at their colleges. I worry about this all the time. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #44

*AS* a community college student in California this is my biggest fear. Initech Oct 2015 #60

When I was in elementery school revmclaren Oct 2015 #83

I go to the largest community college district in Southern California. Initech Oct 2015 #91

It was a different world revmclaren Oct 2015 #97

I really wonder what happened between then and now. Initech Oct 2015 #100

Wish I knew.... revmclaren Oct 2015 #105

Back then, machine guns and grenade launchers were legal Taitertots Oct 2015 #101

Not in my area. revmclaren Oct 2015 #103

Mother of a college student In So Cal. Control-Z Oct 2015 #90

this is the price America is willing to pay in order to indulge its decadent gun culture nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #34

Agree 100% Rex Oct 2015 #43

Oh Lord! Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #36

Sadly these massacres are routine and acceptable to the majority of American People and judges Sam_Fields Oct 2015 #38

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #39

Unless the purpose of the PLCAA was to get guns banned, I don't see the connection. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #46

Your post may be a good example of why it is needed. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #49

The PLCAA gives gun manufacturers unique immunities. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #95

You're blending truth with some with some fictions. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #118

What did I say that was fiction? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #119

I'll quote you. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #121

What can victims sue for other than if a gun malfunctions? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #122

There are six specific exceptions to PLCAA aikoaiko Oct 2015 #123

Those six "exceptions" still only allow one type of product liability suit: malfuntion. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #124

Read what you wrote. You said that gun manufacturers could only be sued for malfunctions. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #125

I (and you) were referring to consumer product liabilty suits against manufacturers. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #126

+1. nt MADem Oct 2015 #144

Guns don't kill people, they just make the bullets move really fast enough Rex Oct 2015 #41

gun humpers not only do not blame guns Skittles Oct 2015 #51

They are mentally ill. Rex Oct 2015 #52

they're like addicts Skittles Oct 2015 #54

What's really weird pintobean Oct 2015 #59

weird that the 4chan folks he announced his plan to yesterday assumed this "beta uprising" was bettyellen Oct 2015 #102

that was debunked. 840high Oct 2015 #128

Not the 4chan threats- nope! They debunked the "anon" poster was someone known as "egg man" to that group bettyellen Oct 2015 #134

the point is Skittles Oct 2015 #145

I agree they are addicted to the gun/death/prepper culture. Rex Oct 2015 #67

Another terrible tragedy. My condolences to injured and family of the killed. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #47

"Tragedy", like in "accident." Call Me Wesley Oct 2015 #53

No, "trajedy", as in a massive suffering caused by multiple killings by a person with a gun. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #58

So, you're the oppressed minority? Call Me Wesley Oct 2015 #62

I do not think of myself as oppressed, do you? aikoaiko Oct 2015 #63

Nope, I'm Swiss, what do you expect? Call Me Wesley Oct 2015 #68

Have we conversed about this before? I don't recall doing so. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #70

Oh yes, we have. Call Me Wesley Oct 2015 #73

Good night. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #77

It ceases to be an accident when it keeps happening and people refuse to change mythology Oct 2015 #72

We just call it a 'Tragedy.' Call Me Wesley Oct 2015 #75

I never said nor intended to imply it was an accident. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #79

Please repost this Call Me Wesley Oct 2015 #48

Oh damn mcar Oct 2015 #50

We have this unconcerned OP just a bit ago upaloopa Oct 2015 #56

GRRRRRR!!!!!!! Initech Oct 2015 #57

CNN is so full of shit. they have a Navy Seal for commenting on this still_one Oct 2015 #61

Oh that's sickening! get the red out Oct 2015 #78

Guns sure didn't help Kris Kyle did they still_one Oct 2015 #116

CNN has gone clear over to the dark side. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #106

At least with that solicitation for comments they sure did still_one Oct 2015 #117

Did you watch the interview davidpdx Oct 2015 #129

Assuming it is the same interview, I caught it in the middle, and here is what he said: still_one Oct 2015 #131

He wasn't the one I saw the interview davidpdx Oct 2015 #132

Reading your post I expected it was something like that. Thanks for the information. Also still_one Oct 2015 #133

Live feed here: Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #65

Did you see the post about someone threatening to do this yesterday? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #94

yes- his pals on the forum assume he is a woman hating "beta male" .... what is this "robot forum" bettyellen Oct 2015 #104

That's 4chan. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #107

yes- but was it in a particular sub forum? or is being beta and hating humanity just the default bettyellen Oct 2015 #110

AG confirms 13 dead.Nt Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #66

Remember now is not the time to discuss guns malaise Oct 2015 #86

Sad day. What a terrible loss of life. DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #71

Several of the bodies don't have ids. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2015 #76

When will Americans have the courage to fight Wayne Lapierre? AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #80

You'll need to fight a lot more than Wayne. branford Oct 2015 #88

I doubt the 80-100+ million lawful gun owners attempted to deny the CDC... LanternWaste Oct 2015 #109

Most don't even belong to the NRA. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #112

The government extensively studies gun violence and related concerns. branford Oct 2015 #114

Quit peddling that bullshit here. That is simply not true. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #135

So, you're discounting all the available and ample firearm-related research branford Oct 2015 #138

No, I'm discounting your lie that the government "studies" (present tense) gun violence. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #139

Sigh... branford Oct 2015 #140

Recording death statistics is not studying gun violence and how to prevent it. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #141

I'm well aware of who does what. branford Oct 2015 #142

What you said was a lie, regardless of where you purport to have worked. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #143

Of course any study would show the relationship. That is why the GOP banned funds for such studies. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #137

And Wayne Lapierre laughs. Another shooting, and no legislation will pass in response. AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #81

I haven't been able to muster shock get the red out Oct 2015 #82

MSNBC says 13 dead. Lint Head Oct 2015 #84

If only they had guns raining from the sky! NRA logic. valerief Oct 2015 #85

My wife teaches at a community college here in Portland Punx Oct 2015 #93

Yahoo reports shooter among dead. maveric Oct 2015 #96

When Will It Be Enough? colsohlibgal Oct 2015 #98

Oregon college shooting live updates: 13 killed and 20 hurt; shooter is dead LATimes riversedge Oct 2015 #113

somebody should mstinamotorcity2 Oct 2015 #115

Ah the thirsty tree of liberty workinclasszero Oct 2015 #120

I grew up just south of Roseburg davidpdx Oct 2015 #130