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GGJohn

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7. I really don't care if you disagree, I'm talking about friends of mine who

Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:41 PM

Jan 2016

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are conservatives, every last one of them would call him out and ridicule him for his stolen valor bullshit.
You, not being a vet, wouldn't understand how abhorrent this is to us vets, especially those of us that served combat tours.

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Stolen valor: The militiaman bodyguard of ranchers Cliven and Ammon Bundy [View all] tencats Jan 2016 OP

I fucking hate these stolen valor wannbe's, GGJohn Jan 2016 #1

their world is a video game roguevalley Jan 2016 #43

Yep, Call of Duty and Medal of Honor is their idea of combat experience. GGJohn Jan 2016 #45

Any time a gunnut tells me he's a Marine, TxVietVet Jan 2016 #49

I couldn't agree more. GGJohn Jan 2016 #52

PLease do and pass it on. TxVietVet Jan 2016 #55

Thank you, I'll use it against some loony tune conservanazi's I know. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #57

and hum this tune to them Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #84

LOL. GGJohn Jan 2016 #89

Oh Yeah, Mbrow Jan 2016 #67

Careful with the term zipperhead, that's what we called the VC in Vietnam, GGJohn Jan 2016 #70

Sorry about that Mbrow Jan 2016 #71

Understood, but some here, as I initially did, may misunderstand the term and alert on it. GGJohn Jan 2016 #72

I'm With You GG ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #98

The ones I like are the Navy Seal fakes. randys1 Jan 2016 #101

They most certainly do not, GGJohn Jan 2016 #102

Same here...Happy New Year! randys1 Jan 2016 #104

Mark me down too DVRacer Jan 2016 #124

I worked with a guy once who claimed to be a martial arts trainer for the Seals. whopis01 Jan 2016 #145

I know one goofy fake Seal. TxVietVet Jan 2016 #117

Bet right wingers don't turn on him like they might if a "liberal" were to fake serving. Hoyt Jan 2016 #2

I know for a fact that every conservative friend of mine would call him out in a heartbeat, GGJohn Jan 2016 #3

I disagree, I think right wingers, even friends, will give him a break because he's into gunz, is a Hoyt Jan 2016 #5

I really don't care if you disagree, I'm talking about friends of mine who GGJohn Jan 2016 #7

I doubt it. Conservatives are almost universally accepting of racists, gunners, anti-government type Hoyt Jan 2016 #9

One more time Hoyt, you, not being a vet, or a combat vet, GGJohn Jan 2016 #12

Racism, guns and anti-government ideology in 2016 are more important than stolen valor to Hoyt Jan 2016 #16

As I said Hoyt, you will never be able to understand the hatred we have towards these fakers, GGJohn Jan 2016 #17

I don't doubt they hate fakers, but they love racist, gun loving white wing intimidaters more. Hoyt Jan 2016 #21

Yep, you're just proving my point Hoyt, GGJohn Jan 2016 #23

I understand, believe me. I don't think most of your conservative vet friends are going to denounce Hoyt Jan 2016 #25

Once again Hoyt, I don't give a rat's ass what you think my friends will do, I know them, GGJohn Jan 2016 #26

But will they turn on him for being a gun loving, racist, white wing terrorist? Hoyt Jan 2016 #29

You can doubt all you want, you don't know them like I do. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #31

Hoyt, I see your point but the vets are correct HassleCat Jan 2016 #114

I swear hoyt lancer78 Jan 2016 #140

This vet agrees with you... TipTok Jan 2016 #19

Thank you. GGJohn Jan 2016 #20

Well I just put your theory to a test with a RWer Veitnam vet GummyBearz Jan 2016 #110

Thank you, my point exactly. GGJohn Jan 2016 #111

I will GummyBearz Jan 2016 #112

As much as i despise CG in everything else as a fellow vet. I will agree with him on this point. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #146

Don’t waste your time dealing with idiots. flt rsk Jan 2016 #78

We'll see if he is expelled by the Bundy Militia vet white wingers. Hoyt Jan 2016 #118

Only if any of those loons are actual combat vets and not posers. GGJohn Jan 2016 #120

According to news reports there are several vets among militia thugs. You let me know when they Hoyt Jan 2016 #121

No, according to the news reports I've seen, there are vets headed to the scene, GGJohn Jan 2016 #122

Here are some names, you watch for them expelling the poser. Hoyt Jan 2016 #133

Fair enough. GGJohn Jan 2016 #134

I'm not so sure. bvar22 Jan 2016 #11

I have right wing acquaintances, not friends, who are fine with racists, gun nuts, anti-government Hoyt Jan 2016 #13

Your are so wrong Hoyt. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #15

Fine, GG, provide some quotes from racist, gun loving, white wingers severely criticizing this guy. Hoyt Jan 2016 #18

Find your own quotes, you made the accusation, I'm not doing your bidding. GGJohn Jan 2016 #22

You're either missing or avoiding the point sarge43 Jan 2016 #73

But, will conservative vets criticize his racism, terrorism, etc. Hoyt Jan 2016 #79

Depends if those conservative vets are white racists, gun toters who are ok with militia bs. sarge43 Jan 2016 #85

If they are a 21st century conservative, my bet is they are. And that's my point. Hoyt Jan 2016 #106

I think there is a difference between combat vets and run of the mill cons. randys1 Jan 2016 #103

I will accept this from you. My experience is most CONSERVATIVE vets are like Ollie North, Randy Hoyt Jan 2016 #108

Thank You!!!! GGJohn Jan 2016 #14

Yup 1939 Jan 2016 #38

So true. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #40

I have found this to be true with all military vets, conservative or liberal DawgHouse Jan 2016 #66

We'll see if the vet occupiers expel him. My guess, love of guns and white wing ideology trumps Hoyt Jan 2016 #135

Maybe they'll get 2naSalit Jan 2016 #4

He'll just bring them twinkies and more ammo and they'll make amends. Racists stick together, Hoyt Jan 2016 #6

You know catnhatnh Jan 2016 #87

I am not sure where 2naSalit Jan 2016 #91

I think you misread catnhatnh Jan 2016 #94

oh... 2naSalit Jan 2016 #97

I believe that catnhatnh was replying to Hoyt. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #95

Yeah ... the article could have "suggested" that this guy was undercover FBI ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #88

I will admit taht if he is 2naSalit Jan 2016 #90

If "Shrub" wasn't called out on it, this guy won't be either. He gets a pass. n/t brewens Jan 2016 #27

Not from vets, especially combat vets, and this combat vet does call out GGJohn Jan 2016 #28

Exactly. Hoyt Jan 2016 #30

Wrong again Hoyt, but that's not surprising as you've never worn the uniform and GGJohn Jan 2016 #33

Actually, I did wear a uniform (albeit in college) and bought into all the gung ho BS for 3+ Hoyt Jan 2016 #41

You can think all you want, but I know them and I know what they think of stolen valor types, GGJohn Jan 2016 #42

Will they denonounce their militia actions is the question. Hoyt Jan 2016 #44

My conservative friends already have, they call it stupid, childish, immature, GGJohn Jan 2016 #47

Do you think they are terrorist? Do you think they should be convicted of a felony and barred from Hoyt Jan 2016 #61

Terrorists? No. GGJohn Jan 2016 #62

Well, I think they are terrorists, but we basically agree otherwise. Better quit while Hoyt Jan 2016 #64

Yeah, we wouldn't want people to know that we actually agree on something here, GGJohn Jan 2016 #65

Geez! Get a room, you guys! pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #74

Only if Hoyt pays for it, GGJohn Jan 2016 #75

They can't claim conservative veterans would denounce this guy in anyway, brewens Jan 2016 #36

I detest Bush, but his wasn't case of stolen valor, he never claimed to be in combat, GGJohn Jan 2016 #39

Bush was pretty close though. Posing as someone that fullfilled his obligation. brewens Jan 2016 #50

Once again, Exactly. They treated one of best from Vietnam era as a piece of garbage. Hoyt Jan 2016 #48

And again Hoyt, that wasn't a case of stolen valor, as this thread is about. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #53

Wasn't posting to you. Conservative vets treated a "non-posing" real hero like crap is the point. Hoyt Jan 2016 #59

Hell, rightwingers turn against liberals who actually serve! n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #83

Good point. They sure went after Kerry. Hoyt Jan 2016 #99

Which was bullshit and uncalled for. GGJohn Jan 2016 #100

Politics don't play a role DVRacer Jan 2016 #126

+1000. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #127

These poor guys are kind of lost souls. It's the aggression that's not benefiting anyone. Gregorian Jan 2016 #8

Posers and Losers look like they'd rhyme, but they don't. MineralMan Jan 2016 #10

I wouldn't have thought to give kudos to the Daily Mail but this one flamingdem Jan 2016 #24

They're all wannabees malaise Jan 2016 #32

The only combat most of these loons have seen is playing Call of Duty or GGJohn Jan 2016 #34

That's why they loved Bush and Cheney and now Trump malaise Jan 2016 #35

Yup, and don't forget Rmoney, GGJohn Jan 2016 #37

Typical Repug lark Jan 2016 #46

Bogus, there is no such thing as a retired Marine, "Once a Marine, always a Marine"... Brother Buzz Jan 2016 #51

Yup, a Marine never stops being a Marine, they're forever a Marine. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #54

After some time, they stop saluting the brass, JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #69

Do me a favor and tell your fellow Marines to STOP telling me how they won the war in Vietnam... Brother Buzz Jan 2016 #77

I was Army, and, just because a Marine retires ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #81

Retired Army here also, GGJohn Jan 2016 #92

When I hear bu$hit like that from Marines TxVietVet Jan 2016 #119

It is all "pretend and role playing" for them. They live in a false glinda Jan 2016 #56

If there were a reason to fight a war, it would be to draft chickenhawks like these guys into combat muntrv Jan 2016 #58

Yep, they'd find out real fast, that unlike GGJohn Jan 2016 #60

oh dear Skittles Jan 2016 #63

Another piece of crap that lied about serving in the military. Rex Jan 2016 #76

all those "militia" types are pathetic wanabes Skittles Jan 2016 #82

He will comeback as "I was really Blackwater and under cover" Geez they just keep digging themselves LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #68

Beyond stupid, it's insane they think they can fool everyone all the time. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2016 #80

Perhaps one day.. mymomwasright Jan 2016 #86

Not exactly surprising. tabasco Jan 2016 #93

Guardian of Valor's Facebook page, if interested. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2016 #96

Yep, just as I thought Separation Jan 2016 #109

So many of them HassleCat Jan 2016 #105

That is what makes them most pathetic imo...not a one of them served 5 years in normal duty roles. Rex Jan 2016 #107

Fuckwits who need their copies of Call of Duty taken away from them. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #113

Disgusting and sickening POS. lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #115

Spot fucking on. GGJohn Jan 2016 #116

I have literally refused to even wear any kind of camo-pattern article bullwinkle428 Jan 2016 #123

Neither do I, to look at me, GGJohn Jan 2016 #125

What kind of exemption did you get to stay in 40 years? Elwood P Dowd Jan 2016 #128

I started out as a WO1 as a helicopter pilot in Vietnam flying slicks and snakes, GGJohn Jan 2016 #129

Did you start out a Rucker and end at Rucker? Elwood P Dowd Jan 2016 #130

Started at Ft. Rucker, but ended at Ft. Riley. GGJohn Jan 2016 #132

Ft Riley, Kansas. That was where my father mustered out from in early 1946 after WWII. (nm) Elwood P Dowd Jan 2016 #136

IMHO, WWII vets are true heros, they really literally saved the world from an evil tyranny, GGJohn Jan 2016 #138

What was that name for you W01 chopper guys.....wogee or something like that. Elwood P Dowd Jan 2016 #139

Sorry it took so long to get back to you, internet was down, a tower fell down. GGJohn Jan 2016 #148

That sucks. If you haven't caught up yet, see this... pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #149

Thanks for the link, it would seem that he was afraid of what his fellow loons GGJohn Jan 2016 #150

Well the daddy isn't coming home guy is a vet gwheezie Jan 2016 #131

I always down play my service. It's actually being honest. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #137

My late husband was a medic gwheezie Jan 2016 #141

Cavalier, aka 'Fluffy Unicorn,' whined about being treated worse than Black Lives Matter pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #142

UPDATE: Cavalier left Malheur after the Daily Mail exposed him - Raw Story pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #143

He'll just go looking for a different audience, but just as gullible. lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #144

Maybe he left to join the marines. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #147

Sure he served...in his MIND. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #151