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LanternWaste

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14. The extent of any Vice President's influence is predicated on what the President expects

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 11:42 AM

Jun 2016

"not as a relatively powerless VEEP who only gets to vote upon a tie..."

The extent of any Vice President's influence is predicated on what the President expects from the position (e.g., Hobart, Wallace, Cheney, Nixon, etc). The office in and of itself is neither neutered nor powerful-- it is what the particular administration want. Essentially, were Warren picked as VP, she would have as much policy input as the Clinton White house allowed her.

(The American Vice Presidency: From Irrelevance to Power, by Jules Witcover-- whom I suspect is not in fact, mad; despite seeing it differential than you)

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Hillizabeth!! [View all] annabanana Jun 2016 OP

Liz Warren is KILLING it! pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #1

This speech deserves to b seen 24/7!!!!!! Nt Ninga Jun 2016 #2

Hillary now touting Consumer Financial Protection Bureau! annabanana Jun 2016 #4

. pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #3

Wonderful, but please no Warren as VEEP. longship Jun 2016 #5

I concur. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #8

I think this ticket would be so popular it would drive the Senate races annabanana Jun 2016 #9

Ding-Ding-Ding! You Are Correct, Again! writes3000 Jun 2016 #10

The message and excitement of a Clnton/Warren ticket will benefit down ticket. We need Ninga Jun 2016 #11

Then what happens in 2018, when Dems have the hindside in Senate elections? longship Jun 2016 #12

A real boring VP will not drive people to the polls katmondoo Jun 2016 #13

Who in the fuck said anything about a boring VEEP choice? longship Jun 2016 #15

While I strongly agree with your position here, I am still conflicted. I have always been... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #18

You've outlined my dilemma perfectly. longship Jun 2016 #19

Agreed, longship. But, damn, that energy with Hill and Liz today! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #20

Have you actually looked at the 2018 Senate race? longship Jun 2016 #16

The extent of any Vice President's influence is predicated on what the President expects LanternWaste Jun 2016 #14

Irrelevant! This is about holding the Senate through the 2018 election. longship Jun 2016 #17

It's important to distinguish- different story if the Senator comes from a state with a (D) Governor Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #25

Well, one has to be very careful. longship Jun 2016 #29

I guess I'm biased, because my state has 2 great (D) Senators Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #31

curious.. What do you think the republican party annabanana Jun 2016 #37

I have no idea, annabanana. longship Jun 2016 #38

how about a sitting Democratic US Senator from a state with a Democratic Governor? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #24

How did that work out when Ted Kennedy died? longship Jun 2016 #32

Wyden and Merkley are from Oregon. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #34

I know. longship Jun 2016 #36

I don't think all Senate seats are created equal. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #39

Well, the GOP holds the vast majority of governorships, and I might add, state legislatures. longship Jun 2016 #40

Yeah, we are definitely spoiled here in OR. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #41

Well, Oregon is unique. longship Jun 2016 #42

Or Indiana caraher Jun 2016 #44

I hear you. I have friends and family in Illinois. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #45

Here's a link ... BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #6

thanks! ,. . .n/t annabanana Jun 2016 #7

Yes, this is great 90-percent Jun 2016 #21

I am loving these two together! Lady_Chat Jun 2016 #22

"Hillzabeth"? Are they a couple? n/t BlueStater Jun 2016 #23

THE DYNAMIC DUO! TAG TEAM! trof Jun 2016 #26

there you are Skittles Jun 2016 #30

YO! trof Jun 2016 #35

Makes me proud! Laffy Kat Jun 2016 #27

OMG! k8conant Jun 2016 #28

Why, they're just so much alike! senz Jun 2016 #33

Better than deaniac21 Jun 2016 #43