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Scuba

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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:30 PM Jul 2016

This all felt sort of familiar, then I remember why ... [View all]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/23/preston.puma/

Wed July 23, 2008
Preston on Politics: PUMAs stalking Obama


Why are they angry? It all depends on whom you ask. Some of the PUMAs accuse Democratic leaders of rigging the primaries to favor Sen. Barack Obama, while others feel that he is not qualified to be the party nominee, let alone competent enough to lead the country.

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Even though Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the Democratic presidential nomination to Obama in early June and urged all of her supporters to vote for him, not all of her backers heeded the call. Hence, the beginning of the PUMA movement.

"What we are really organizing about is to reinitiate Hillary back into the presidential race," Mann said during a recent interview at a Washington bar, where she met with fellow PUMAs for kinship and to strategize about how to make Clinton the Democratic nominee.

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If PUMAs are unsuccessful in preventing Obama from getting the nomination, what will they do? Bower and Mann said they would cross party lines and vote for McCain; Navot noted she might write in Clinton's name or not vote at all. Tarpley said he would turn his gaze towards Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney, Libertarian Party nominee Bob Barr or independent candidate Ralph Nader.





http://www.salon.com/2008/06/23/pumas/

Why Clinton voters say they won’t support Obama
The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home.


But why do you keep hearing all these stories about grumpy old ladies still hung up on Hillary Clinton, the ones who’re threatening to make a scene at the Democratic convention in Denver, or vote for John McCain in November?

To be fair, it’s not just women. There are plenty of Clinton supporters of every demographic description who are still ticked. But yes, it’s true that the Clinton base skewed female, and that women over 30 are the most vocal of the malcontents. Some of them are calling themselves “PUMAs” (as in “Party Unity My Ass”), an acronym that makes them sound, appropriately enough, like cougars in a very bad mood. Who are these women, and why are they such buzzkills?

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1. They are angry because their candidate lost a close contest. This is just simple human math, and it happens after every primary showdown. Remember that it took some Deaniacs months to come around to John Kerry in 2004. It’s just that most years, the contests haven’t also been identity-politics duels between two underrepresented social groups vying for a chance at a political position that has always been denied them.

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As many people have already observed: What are they going to do, vote for John McCain?
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This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #1
LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #6
I self-deleted because I really shouldn't have written that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #17
Damn, I was too late! LOL! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #20
I guess if it feels familiar, that's all that's required to justify one's own actions. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #2
Not all Hillary supporters were PUMAs in '08 sarae Jul 2016 #3
And not all Bernie supporters are Bernie-or-Busters. And this is run-of-the-mill convention stuff. Scuba Jul 2016 #4
When did anyone say every Bernie supporter is like this? sarae Jul 2016 #5
When did anyone say all Hillary supporters were PUMA's? Scuba Jul 2016 #7
So why did you post your OP then? sarae Jul 2016 #8
Because today's convention feels a lot like 2008. Scuba Jul 2016 #9
Ok. Well, I hope the outcome is the same as it was in '08. sarae Jul 2016 #10
Wouldn't that be great? Scuba Jul 2016 #12
Nah, two terms is all he gets. Iggo Jul 2016 #14
... sarae Jul 2016 #36
gawd Skittles Jul 2016 #38
Why so defensive all of a sudden? Nobody said what you're implying they did. But you know that. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #13
I didn't imply anyone said anything. I've seen no reports of "lock her up" nor "Hillary for prison" Scuba Jul 2016 #15
"I've seen no reports of "lock her up" nor "Hillary for prison"" Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #16
I'very since seen a twitter video of "lock her up." That person should be ejected. Scuba Jul 2016 #22
Oh you can believe there will be ejections. joshcryer Jul 2016 #25
Then you miss the point of the OP malaise Jul 2016 #18
Clinton's people never booed Obama at the convention. joshcryer Jul 2016 #24
Never said they did. Scuba Jul 2016 #26
You certainly implied it. LisaM Jul 2016 #30
"Today's convention feels a lot like '08" joshcryer Jul 2016 #31
and Hillary people are NOT booing at the mention of Bernie's name still_one Jul 2016 #34
Clinton supporters didn't boo Obama in 2008. joshcryer Jul 2016 #37
Yeah but that was then. Press Virginia Jul 2016 #11
Whatever floats your life preserver. Here's some good advice from Fleetwood Mac: Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #21
Ah the memories! PatSeg Jul 2016 #19
Clinton got her people to fall in line real fucking quick. joshcryer Jul 2016 #23
Too many of them never really supported him. JoePhilly Jul 2016 #27
Yep. joshcryer Jul 2016 #33
yup Skittles Jul 2016 #39
yup, it could have been Warren or anyone else JI7 Jul 2016 #40
I dont know how it feels familiar MFM008 Jul 2016 #28
i don't remember dean and ClinTon people behaving like trump scum JI7 Jul 2016 #29
NOT FAMILIAR AT ALL. Justice Jul 2016 #32
What 08 convention did you see? gwheezie Jul 2016 #35
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