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edhopper

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10. Actually

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:20 AM

Dec 2016

they were written from around 60-70 AD to around 100 AD.
Our oldest complete copies are from around 300, but there are fragments from earlier.

Still none were written by anyone who witnessed anything.

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Really ? You feel compelled to go down this road on Christmas Day ? Chill. Trust Buster Dec 2016 #1

Actually, it's an excellent time to go down this road. stopbush Dec 2016 #3

Congratulations.... Now you're down. Bucky Dec 2016 #31

Speaking of Ebenezer, his use of the word "humbug" is misunderstood. stopbush Dec 2016 #34

Um, yeah? Douglas Kawasaki Dec 2016 #4

It's true. Jesus didn't exist. There are millions of people stopbush Dec 2016 #2

Don't let it bother you. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #7

And all the laws they are going to pass edhopper Dec 2016 #9

this!!!! Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #16

Hateful things done in the name of religion are still hateful. we can do it Dec 2016 #18

This is the problem. old guy Dec 2016 #27

Right on! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #37

Er, it should bother everyone when make believe is used as a basis stopbush Dec 2016 #14

Second time I had to post this today Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #15

Your sources? stopbush Dec 2016 #28

Well, Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #45

What does believing a Q document existed have to do with stopbush Dec 2016 #46

Okay, I guess you know more than Wells Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #47

Ad hominum attack. stopbush Dec 2016 #48

I saying he knows more than YOU Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #50

I won't bother listing the Biblical scholars who know as much as Wells stopbush Dec 2016 #51

Oh, sources are required for my argument but not for yours? Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #52

Wells from Wiki: stopbush Dec 2016 #54

Wiki... and you balked at my sources? Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #55

Shorthand is all. stopbush Dec 2016 #57

If your argument is for the existence of Jesus, then, yes, the evidence stopbush Dec 2016 #56

The evidence strongly supports a historical Jesus Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #58

Oh dear. You really need to be educated. stopbush Dec 2016 #61

The Vatican is full of people who would not agree Drahthaardogs Dec 2016 #62

When the Revised Standard Version of the Bible was released in 1952, stopbush Dec 2016 #64

Oh, but the eggnog is so good. !! pangaia Dec 2016 #35

Those stupid and destructive people gave me shelter when I was homeless FrodosNewPet Dec 2016 #39

I thought he existed but just exaggerated facts a bit yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #5

Actually edhopper Dec 2016 #10

Thanks! yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #11

Wikipedia has a pretty good edhopper Dec 2016 #12

Thank you. yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #13

Why? former9thward Dec 2016 #63

Seriously? left-of-center2012 Dec 2016 #6

Pretty sad, isn't it ? Merry Christmas to you my friend. Trust Buster Dec 2016 #8

I anxiously await your hit piece on Muhammad. nt B2G Dec 2016 #17

Muhammad probably has better evidence of existing treestar Dec 2016 #20

it is not based on his existence but belief in his existence treestar Dec 2016 #19

Jesus almost certainly existed ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #21

Well said! mcar Dec 2016 #30

Actually, the article itself is an example of fake news. rug Dec 2016 #22

Yup ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #24

It's right up there with the Horus/Jesus meme which is consistently debunked. rug Dec 2016 #25

Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #26

Exactly right. The whole "Jesus is a cookie cutter example of an old god" argument stopbush Dec 2016 #33

Ah, someone who's bookmarked the Horus/Jesus chart. rug Dec 2016 #40

Yeah, if you would bother to explore my link stopbush Dec 2016 #43

Intense study? On the contrary, most historians go along to get along stopbush Dec 2016 #32

My understanding is that he existed ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #36

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A Trolly Jolly Christmas to you too. tenderfoot Dec 2016 #38

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Merry Christmas to you pintobean. tenderfoot Dec 2016 #49

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We can accept that he existed. HassleCat Dec 2016 #59

Christmas is an important Japanese gift giving holiday. McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #60