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cthulu2016

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8. Had Dems understood and/or been honest about the situation this effect may have been smaller

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 11:41 AM

Dec 2011

It's like, "The people prefer their big sexy lies to our lower case, tepid version of the same lies."

Well, duh.

We never made a case for honest economics. We never tried to dispell economic ignorance, but instead tried to co-opt it.

When Obama became mister deficit hawk he was saying that the tea party is essentialy right, but too bold in their rightness.

If "we" had made a principled case for economic reality then there would be a valid complaint that the people chose fantasy over reality. But we didn't. We pandered to the people's ingrained ignorance seeking to finese that ignorance rather than to persuade people to the truth.

People will chose real republicanism over fake republicanism.

Sigh.

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Thomas Frank: How the Right Wing Hijacked Rage Over the Economic Collapse and Swindled America [View all] xchrom Dec 2011 OP

Thanks for that find! pnorman Dec 2011 #1

Um.. Obama was NEVER a liberal Democrat... ananda Dec 2011 #2

Frank knows this getdown Dec 2011 #4

Frank touches on the real problem, but seems scared to proceed: Romulox Dec 2011 #6

excuse? getdown Dec 2011 #9

Read the entire interview, if you haven't. It ends with far less focus than it begins, Romulox Dec 2011 #10

seems he made the point getdown Dec 2011 #16

You literally pulled out the piece I did. I copied it to post here and then was reading the thread riderinthestorm Dec 2011 #27

This x 1000. Liberal "leaders" are mostly of the 1%. closeupready Dec 2011 #29

america is full of idiots who deny the obvious while falling for any myth. KG Dec 2011 #3

america is full getdown Dec 2011 #17

The Deregulation of finance was championed by Bill Clinton. Facts matter. Romulox Dec 2011 #5

Excellent read! kentuck Dec 2011 #7

Had Dems understood and/or been honest about the situation this effect may have been smaller cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #8

Gotta agree, Cthulu--not only did we not make a case for honest economics, we didn't even TRY to Nay Dec 2011 #11

...and the few that did (see progressive caucus budget) were ignored by the establishment. Huey P. Long Dec 2011 #13

Or are simply afraid cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #14

and if Dems had tried to getdown Dec 2011 #18

Totally agree. Excellent post. -n/t Zenlitened Dec 2011 #21

occupy. -eom Huey P. Long Dec 2011 #12

excellent piece thanks for posting getdown Dec 2011 #15

Who called Obama "a liberal Democrat?" The far right? The MSM? Tom Frank? The author of AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #19

u seem to be attacking Frank getdown Dec 2011 #22

Your perception that there was an attack upon Frank is wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #23

2 wrds getdown Dec 2011 #24

Question: How can you tell when this arrogant, obese, convicted felon is lying? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #25

he's led the campaign getdown Dec 2011 #26

A must-read. Zenlitened Dec 2011 #20

true.. kentuck Dec 2011 #28

Kick! /nt Bragi Jan 2012 #30

This looks like something I will read when I have more time. Quantess Jan 2012 #31

That moment was intentionally frittered away and robber baron capitalism given time it needed kenny blankenship Jan 2012 #32