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139. Making DACA a law is doable, adding others not in that age group of O's EO may...

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:22 PM

Sep 2017

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blow up DACA all together then everyone would be subject to deportation.

I say get DACA fixed then see what can be done for others.

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Dreamers chase Nancy Pelosi out of her own press conference [View all] still_one Sep 2017 OP

The Fucking republicans are trying to boot them and the republicans control CONGRESS onecaliberal Sep 2017 #1

Ya see that so often. JaneQPublic Sep 2017 #15

They hurt their chances when they do this stuff. Disgraceful...so sick of this sort of behavior... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #64

They are some of the most politically aware folks in America Not Ruth Sep 2017 #59

No they are not...they don't even know who is on their side...all they did was hurt their cause. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #65

What other group has their level of non partisan support? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #68

Let them go to the GOP...all will get is lip service...and then deportation...the GOP Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #85

Then perhaps they should protest and interrupt the people trying to destroy them, onecaliberal Sep 2017 #93

They Also Did That To PBO Me. Sep 2017 #2

Certainly did but he fought for them anyway. ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #94

Yes He Did, Never Held It Against Them Me. Sep 2017 #101

pfft "relishes", they live for it. I agree,and if they're following a person/group who believes ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #111

No. There was no dream act passed. There was daca. Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #108

You Make It Sound Like He Just Didn't Want To Me. Sep 2017 #114

It's a matter of urgency for them. It isn't for anybody else. Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #122

And While They Were Protesting The People Me. Sep 2017 #123

Prison isn't fun Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #124

You KNow Me. Sep 2017 #125

We don't get to choose their tactics Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #127

You're Right WE Don't Get To Choose Their Tactics Me. Sep 2017 #129

Actually they already have our support. Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #130

Never Take Anything For Granted Me. Sep 2017 #131

Sounds like they want to be heard and that it's pretty fucking urgent for them. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #3

Being heard Skidmore Sep 2017 #6

Hold hands and sing Kumbaya! The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #9

Not what I said. Skidmore Sep 2017 #11

These people are rightly pissed and she ought to know it, this isn't a game. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #16

Did I say it was? Skidmore Sep 2017 #18

What makes you think for even a second Control-Z Sep 2017 #26

Too fucking bad leftynyc Sep 2017 #55

Codifying DACA is their chance to effect real change Not Ruth Sep 2017 #60

I'm not as leftynyc Sep 2017 #76

What is playing by the rules? Just curious. awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #107

Playing by the rules is a simple concept leftynyc Sep 2017 #153

They're already here and have awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #160

Spare me leftynyc Sep 2017 #164

Spared. awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #165

I appreciate people leftynyc Sep 2017 #167

Hmmm, think you thought awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #174

Really? leftynyc Sep 2017 #175

Breitbart is that way ---- awesomerwb1 Sep 2017 #177

Yawwwwwwnnnnnn leftynyc Sep 2017 #179

"Playing by the rules", that silly thing that only non-'dominant' people seem to have to do ck4829 Sep 2017 #158

Just Saw An Interview With One Young Man Me. Sep 2017 #105

But it does make people lose sympathy for them, even liberal Democrats unitedwethrive Sep 2017 #52

This sympathy stuff is a load of crap. They were sending a message to The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #56

Not if you think about it for more than the half second you just did. stevenleser Sep 2017 #80

You have a pretty low opinion of Pelosi to think that she could have her The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #88

Again you didn't read and think it through. I specifically indicated I did not think she was like stevenleser Sep 2017 #90

I recall very well constant protests that took place during Vietnam at congressional offices The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #91

That's not the effing point maxrandb Sep 2017 #128

I disagree. I have attended several pro-DACA rallies, but I don't have any desire to again. unitedwethrive Sep 2017 #95

Sour taste! How appallingly dreadful! The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #97

Without support, their movement is going to be diminished. unitedwethrive Sep 2017 #99

First of all, the Democrats have no power to move this forward without the GOP who are Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #66

Then maybe she should voice her discontent to the party in complete power? Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #70

Agree... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #157

Something is fishy. Why protest someone trying to make DACA a law and not... brush Sep 2017 #7

Who said they were protesting HER? I think there is a basic misunderstanding The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #12

Tell that to the poster who wrote the head of the OP. brush Sep 2017 #27

They booed her and I am offended to see a Dem leader booed for no reason...fuck them. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #67

I heard a spokesperson for this point of view marybourg Sep 2017 #31

So they don't want help with the Dreamers? What you describe seems to be another issue. brush Sep 2017 #42

Agree. I was kinda startled to hear this POV. nt marybourg Sep 2017 #44

It's not another issue if it's their parents, siblings, and other family members loyalsister Sep 2017 #92

Making DACA a law is doable, adding others not in that age group of O's EO may... brush Sep 2017 #139

They are afraid in ways most of us will never know loyalsister Sep 2017 #142

DACA is about the teenagers not being deported, right? brush Sep 2017 #143

I was talking about their parents loyalsister Sep 2017 #144

The reality of the situation is rough. Options are limited. brush Sep 2017 #147

As we say behind our screen loyalsister Sep 2017 #148

They came for a better life. Who wouldn't do that for themselves and their kids? brush Sep 2017 #149

Some have children themselves loyalsister Sep 2017 #150

Yes it is. Pelosi is not the one to blame though. brush Sep 2017 #159

People do not get this!!!! loyalsister Sep 2017 #161

And you think she doesn't get the urgency? JHan Sep 2017 #176

She doesn't feel the same urgency they do loyalsister Sep 2017 #180

Nancy Pelosi's main objective at this point.. JHan Sep 2017 #181

When Donald Trump was elected... and a GOP congress, the Democrats lost all power to Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #73

"*Sham* Elections have consequences" ck4829 Sep 2017 #156

You too? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #48

They Used To Call PBO THe Deporter In Chief Me. Sep 2017 #112

It is one thing for Dreamers to call PBO that and to protest any politician, if I was Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #113

Sorry ER Me. Sep 2017 #115

If this same group only protests Nancy then they are not who they say they are. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #116

You Make A Good Point Me. Sep 2017 #117

While on the topic, not ONE lie including you can keep your dr. not ONE scandal Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #118

yeah I don't see them protesting republicans. rockfordfile Sep 2017 #49

They have no shot with Republicans Not Ruth Sep 2017 #61

And alienating Democrats helps how exactly? mcar Sep 2017 #137

Exactly right. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #74

Sounds like they want to be heard and that it's pretty fucking urgent for them. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #10

This. Much more realistic. nt Skidmore Sep 2017 #14

King isn't their rep. she is. You don't seem to understand how protest works. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #17

Protesting an ally Skidmore Sep 2017 #22

You are correct, last time I had my car in the shop was for a new water pump and belt tensioner snooper2 Sep 2017 #24

Palosi hasn't done a whole lot about this in the last 20 years. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #53

If she doesn't work with Trump the dreamers get deported but of course our revolution doesn't give Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #77

DACA hasn't been around for 20 yrs so stay focused on the topic: "Saving Dreamers/Fixing DACA" ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #100

People understand what protesting is about. We also understand that something is fishy... brush Sep 2017 #28

It happens, recall BLM at Bernie and Hillary rallies Not Ruth Sep 2017 #62

BLM were protesting Bernie because he hadn't taken a prominent stance on their behalf up until that stevenleser Sep 2017 #81

Exactly. Not comparable at all. brush Sep 2017 #140

It is our revolution...we all know their agenda. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #78

Yeah, that says it all. R B Garr Sep 2017 #104

I'm going to need some evidence HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #133

Is that who's behind it, Sanders' group? brush Sep 2017 #141

The spokesman who was interviewed is in that group. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #154

King isn't their rep. she is. You don't seem to understand how protest works. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #30

Actually we do understand how protesting works, that's why we have an issue with their actions. stevenleser Sep 2017 #38

Neither do they...they protest the wrong people. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #87

False flag? treestar Sep 2017 #19

Thank you that's what I'm thinking elehhhhna Sep 2017 #45

YES! HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #134

What gets me is that the Dreamers behind Nancy were waiting to take the microphone, Ninsianna Sep 2017 #171

Exactly loyalsister Sep 2017 #146

Perhaps these protesters should be going after the republicans instead of Democrats. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #4

Paid assholes. They aren't Dreamers. DURHAM D Sep 2017 #5

I wouldn't be surprised, but that is not how the article is characterizing it. still_one Sep 2017 #8

These are the people who gave us daca Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #23

That is a variation on the line "the Democrats didn't give us a reason to vote for them". Bullshit still_one Sep 2017 #32

No. They gave me plenty of reason. But these people are fearing for their freedom every day. Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #36

What do you think the Democrats in Congress have been trying to do since trump issued his EO? still_one Sep 2017 #40

I think it's great Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #41

Sounds like it, paid disruptors, elleng Sep 2017 #20

You dont have to be a brain surgeon to say WTF.......... Old Vet Sep 2017 #51

Dreamers are smarter than that. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #25

encouraged by who though OKNancy Sep 2017 #29

According to Pelosi's own aides HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #135

hey dreamers, go interrupt republican press conferences.....pelosi is fighting FOR YOU. spanone Sep 2017 #13

They would Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #21

and exactly how does refusing to let Nancy Pelosi speak, who is a supporter of DACA do that? still_one Sep 2017 #35

They can't vote for one thing, so what they think about democrats is irrelevant in a political level Tiggeroshii Sep 2017 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Sep 2017 #43

+ a million! countryjake Sep 2017 #98

Then MSNBC interviews a Sanders campaign person OKNancy Sep 2017 #33

Saw that. Skidmore Sep 2017 #46

Wow. I remember posting on this guy's blog trying to start a conversation on why Hillary lunamagica Sep 2017 #71

Ahh. Well, that explains the "strategy". nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #82

Not helpful. n/t jcmaine72 Sep 2017 #34

It's a solid protest if you know Pelosi. She is as strong as they come.... Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #37

It's not the first time a protest group has done that to an ally. Autumn Sep 2017 #47

Yup, BLM did this to Bernie and tried to do it to Hillary Arazi Sep 2017 #69

It always a stupid move to treat allies with disrespect like that. It may turn the supporters of the Autumn Sep 2017 #72

If their "cause" is really just a ruse to support one politician, then R B Garr Sep 2017 #103

people have every right to wonder if these politicians are their allies...The politicians need to JCanete Sep 2017 #162

Nancy Pelosi has been a strong voice for the Dreamers.The meeting they chased her out of Autumn Sep 2017 #163

Maybe they...and I want Dems to knee Trump in the nuts..NOT work with him maxrandb Sep 2017 #50

And be deported? I doubt it ...these people are being tricked by someone with an agenda. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #79

I agree w/the Dems working with Trump stuff. Awful. Gives me the creeps and feels like a anneboleyn Sep 2017 #119

So you'd be happy to see the deportation of 800,000 Dreamers ? OnDoutside Sep 2017 #151

Buddying? Chumming up with? Our government is not a HS cafeteria bettyellen Sep 2017 #178

Odds are that it was a Roger Stone Production Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #54

nope - "Our Revolution" OKNancy Sep 2017 #57

Revolution for what ? Are they opposed to saving daca ? JI7 Sep 2017 #58

They hate Democrats...they are involved in primarys against sitting Democrats ... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #83

Nothing to see here, just another ex-Bernie staffer kneecapping an 'establishment' Dem: Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #63

That explains it...Our revolution is involved...just another hit job on the Democrats. They are Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #75

Both sides are the same on immigration? mcar Sep 2017 #138

Are they really dreams? I doubt it. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #84

Reading some of the comments, that is seeming like a real possibility still_one Sep 2017 #86

If they are being lead around the nose by our revolution...they should prepare for the worse. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #89

Jesus. Sounds like a Make America Great Again rally... countryjake Sep 2017 #96

The idea of direct action is totally foreign to these people. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #102

I hear you! countryjake Sep 2017 #110

It's like a messiah-seeking complex or something ck4829 Sep 2017 #166

The part that makes me smile is that Pelosi The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #169

EXACTLY. The embracing of Dems working w/Trump and weakness on this issue is REALLY anneboleyn Sep 2017 #120

Walk a couple miles in an undocumented immigrant's shoes, then get back to me. LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #172

Biting the hand that feeds you mercuryblues Sep 2017 #106

Has anyone seen any articles about who organized these protesters? I've looked but can't find one. mulsh Sep 2017 #109

3 organizations HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #132

Not the biggest Pelosi fan romanic Sep 2017 #121

That is very possible. kentuck Sep 2017 #136

Parts of the message are understandable, but not sure I can blame her mvd Sep 2017 #145

Gee, that's too bad. nt m-lekktor Sep 2017 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author quickesst Sep 2017 #152

Bullshit thread.... quickesst Sep 2017 #155

And as always, sooner or later the OTHER shoe drops: Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #168

most dreamers were going off on the protestors JI7 Sep 2017 #173

Ironically what those bratty protesters did was silence the Dreamers who were Ninsianna Sep 2017 #170