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In reply to the discussion: German Imam blames Cologne rape victims; 'they wore perfume' [View all]guillaumeb
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Activists say violence against women has been ignored for too long whether the perpetrators are immigrants or native-born Germans.
Cologne, Germany The victims of the sexual assaults on New Years Eve in Cologne and other German cities have figured as bit players, overshadowed by a raging debate over whether Germany has erred in accepting so many asylum seekers 1.1 million last year.
But as the criminal complaints related to the attacks soar above 600 so far nationwide, the events in Cologne have also prompted a fresh look at sexism and violence against women in German society. The assaults have spurred a drive for tougher laws against offenders immigrant or native and the realization that even the most innocuous pass at a woman can no longer be tolerated.
We have been blind in one eye, says Alexander Bosch, a consultant for "hate crimes" for Amnesty International in Berlin. He says that reports of sexual assault have been documented for years at events like Carnival or Oktoberfest, but no one took it seriously until foreigners were believed to be involved. We see the sexism of white guys, and we dont talk about it.
Cologne, Germany The victims of the sexual assaults on New Years Eve in Cologne and other German cities have figured as bit players, overshadowed by a raging debate over whether Germany has erred in accepting so many asylum seekers 1.1 million last year.
But as the criminal complaints related to the attacks soar above 600 so far nationwide, the events in Cologne have also prompted a fresh look at sexism and violence against women in German society. The assaults have spurred a drive for tougher laws against offenders immigrant or native and the realization that even the most innocuous pass at a woman can no longer be tolerated.
We have been blind in one eye, says Alexander Bosch, a consultant for "hate crimes" for Amnesty International in Berlin. He says that reports of sexual assault have been documented for years at events like Carnival or Oktoberfest, but no one took it seriously until foreigners were believed to be involved. We see the sexism of white guys, and we dont talk about it.
As this more nuanced article states, "no one took it seriously until foreigners were believed to be involved".
According to Federal Association of Rape Crisis Centers and Womens Counseling Centers in Germany, between 2001 and 2012, Germany averaged 8,000 reports of sexual assault per year, but the number of those that were brought to court numbered only 1,300 annually. In that entire span, there were fewer than 1,000 prosecutions, and only 10 percent of those resulted in conviction.
An indication perhaps that in Germany, like the US, reports of rape are not taken seriously by the police or prosecutors?
This clip would give credence to that:
Writing in the Frankfurter Allgemeine on Sunday, Antonia Baum says men are trying to downplay the victimization of women. One doesn't want to tell the story because suddenly the men who are interested in it are the same ones who previously had brushed feminists off, the writer says.
An indication perhaps that in Germany, like the US, reports of rape are not taken seriously by the police or prosecutors?
This clip would give credence to that:
Writing in the Frankfurter Allgemeine on Sunday, Antonia Baum says men are trying to downplay the victimization of women. One doesn't want to tell the story because suddenly the men who are interested in it are the same ones who previously had brushed feminists off, the writer says.
Finally,
Refugees are worried that these events will exacerbate anti-migrant sentiment, especially among women. A group of male Syrian refugees distributed fliers on the University of Cologne campus today condemning the attacks and apologizing for the criminal actions.
These criminal actions stomped all over our cultural values values which naturally include respect for women and men, their flier read.
These criminal actions stomped all over our cultural values values which naturally include respect for women and men, their flier read.
Read more:
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2016/0111/Cologne-attacks-Does-Germany-have-a-problem-with-sexual-assault-video
And then there's also the question of popular response, and whether women's experiences are being hijacked for political purposes.
Wizorek started a campaign in 2013 to use the hashtag "#aufschrei," or outcry, for women to share their experiences with stalking, harassment, assault and rape.
"Back then when #Aufschrei was big in the media and people talked about it ... a lot of people also tried to downplay the problems. They were saying, 'Well, but we've gotten so far and we have gender equity in Germany right now, we have a female chancellor, so what do you want?' All that kind of argument was going on," she told Michel.
"And those people are the ones who are now talking a lot about what has happened in Cologne. So they are using these stories and these experiences of the people who have been attacked in Cologne to only push forward with their racist agenda against migrants and refugees in Germany. And I think that's a huge problem."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/10/462558773/night-of-shame-week-of-soul-searching-cologne-attacks-divide-Germany
"Back then when #Aufschrei was big in the media and people talked about it ... a lot of people also tried to downplay the problems. They were saying, 'Well, but we've gotten so far and we have gender equity in Germany right now, we have a female chancellor, so what do you want?' All that kind of argument was going on," she told Michel.
"And those people are the ones who are now talking a lot about what has happened in Cologne. So they are using these stories and these experiences of the people who have been attacked in Cologne to only push forward with their racist agenda against migrants and refugees in Germany. And I think that's a huge problem."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/10/462558773/night-of-shame-week-of-soul-searching-cologne-attacks-divide-Germany
Once again the right wing, assisted by the corporate media, is using the very real issue of rape violence for political purposes.
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And claiming that women are responsible for their own rapes ISN'T hate speech?
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#59
Two totally different subjects; but does Islam also allow prostitution? Why, yes, it does!
7962
Jan 2016
#120
Yes, both practices are widely accepted in various interpretations of Islam.
cheapdate
Jan 2016
#135
I can understand the irrelevance part. But how can stating a fact be inflammatory?
totodeinhere
Jan 2016
#168
This is a "public" enterprise where posts are judged by a random group of participants
philosslayer
Jan 2016
#170
there are people putting their heads into the sand and hoping that all the islamic
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#52
You are absolutely right. Not all of them are bad, but too many of them refuse to
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#74
i don't even care if someone assimilates, just don't try to impose sharia law on everyone
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#144
Your question, while a good one, presupposes that England had a right to separate
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#161
the fact is they did not. My point was about what happened between the muslims and the hindus in
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#169
great for your research, but you ignored my original point. Who gives a shit
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#173
In other future news, German Imam justifies his own severe beating for talking shit. nt
Lucky Luciano
Jan 2016
#22
Then they are rabid animals, not human beings. (apologies to non-human species).
Elmer S. E. Dump
Jan 2016
#24
What's funniest about this is that no one is half-naked in Germany on New Year's Eve
Yo_Mama
Jan 2016
#25
I also read today that they think the Germans need to ban alcohol because they think it
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#63
Not, I think, to most, but the fact that this sort of thing is openly said in Europe
Yo_Mama
Jan 2016
#87
Which holy book would you like me to quote bullshit from, I'll let you pick first
snooper2
Jan 2016
#191
Yes, I am an ex-Christian. That does not mean I disrespect respectable Christians or Muslims
FrodosPet
Jan 2016
#153
As an Islamic scholar, can you tell us what non-Muslims should think about these passages?
FrodosPet
Jan 2016
#137
I think they need to crack down on the source of the problem, which is the radical
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#76
Yet catholic priests rarely have a contingent of progressives defending them
PersonNumber503602
Jan 2016
#46
Yet another in a series of "Muslim hating" posts that ignore that Germany has a long standing
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#54
As I previously stated, if rape was a problem exclusive to certain cultures,
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#71
No, he's saying that's the reasoning of the gropers and rapists and that it is wrong
Warpy
Jan 2016
#99
One way to attack information that runs counter to your narrative is to dismiss it.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#113
One can only wonder about the motives when someone posts articles from a news site that isn't even
Little Tich
Jan 2016
#127
Yeah, I agree. It's probably best for him to keep his thoughts to himself.
PersonNumber503602
Jan 2016
#122
The very words of your denial contain the proof of Islamophobia and culture prejudice.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#162
Against multiculturalism and convinced that some cultures are below others.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#176