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In reply to the discussion: German Imam blames Cologne rape victims; 'they wore perfume' [View all]FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)137. As an Islamic scholar, can you tell us what non-Muslims should think about these passages?
Qu'ran
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/002-qmt.php#002.190
002.190
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002.216
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/005-qmt.php#005.033
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005.038
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/008-qmt.php#008.012
008.012
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008.039
008.060
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.005
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009.029
009.123
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/017-qmt.php#017.016
017.016
Hadiths
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php#004.052.177
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 179:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 182:
Narrated 'Ali:
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:
Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4321
Book 019, Number 4321:
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4294
Book 019, Number 4294:
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/002-qmt.php#002.190
002.190
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
002.191
And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
002.216
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/005-qmt.php#005.033
005.033
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
005.038
As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/008-qmt.php#008.012
008.012
Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
008.038
Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them).
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And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.
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Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.005
009.005
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
009.014
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,
009.029
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
009.123
O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/017-qmt.php#017.016
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When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly.
Hadiths
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php#004.052.177
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 179:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 182:
Narrated 'Ali:
When it was the day of the battle of Al-Ahzab (i.e. the clans), Allah's Apostle said, "O Allah! Fill their (i.e. the infidels') houses and graves with fire as they busied us so much that we did not perform the prayer (i.e. 'Asr) till the sun set."
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:
Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:
The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4321
Book 019, Number 4321:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4294
Book 019, Number 4294:
It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah's Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah's behest with regard to them.
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And claiming that women are responsible for their own rapes ISN'T hate speech?
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#59
Two totally different subjects; but does Islam also allow prostitution? Why, yes, it does!
7962
Jan 2016
#120
Yes, both practices are widely accepted in various interpretations of Islam.
cheapdate
Jan 2016
#135
I can understand the irrelevance part. But how can stating a fact be inflammatory?
totodeinhere
Jan 2016
#168
This is a "public" enterprise where posts are judged by a random group of participants
philosslayer
Jan 2016
#170
there are people putting their heads into the sand and hoping that all the islamic
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#52
You are absolutely right. Not all of them are bad, but too many of them refuse to
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#74
i don't even care if someone assimilates, just don't try to impose sharia law on everyone
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#144
Your question, while a good one, presupposes that England had a right to separate
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#161
the fact is they did not. My point was about what happened between the muslims and the hindus in
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#169
great for your research, but you ignored my original point. Who gives a shit
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#173
In other future news, German Imam justifies his own severe beating for talking shit. nt
Lucky Luciano
Jan 2016
#22
Then they are rabid animals, not human beings. (apologies to non-human species).
Elmer S. E. Dump
Jan 2016
#24
What's funniest about this is that no one is half-naked in Germany on New Year's Eve
Yo_Mama
Jan 2016
#25
I also read today that they think the Germans need to ban alcohol because they think it
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#63
Not, I think, to most, but the fact that this sort of thing is openly said in Europe
Yo_Mama
Jan 2016
#87
Which holy book would you like me to quote bullshit from, I'll let you pick first
snooper2
Jan 2016
#191
Yes, I am an ex-Christian. That does not mean I disrespect respectable Christians or Muslims
FrodosPet
Jan 2016
#153
As an Islamic scholar, can you tell us what non-Muslims should think about these passages?
FrodosPet
Jan 2016
#137
I think they need to crack down on the source of the problem, which is the radical
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#76
Yet catholic priests rarely have a contingent of progressives defending them
PersonNumber503602
Jan 2016
#46
Yet another in a series of "Muslim hating" posts that ignore that Germany has a long standing
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#54
As I previously stated, if rape was a problem exclusive to certain cultures,
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#71
No, he's saying that's the reasoning of the gropers and rapists and that it is wrong
Warpy
Jan 2016
#99
One way to attack information that runs counter to your narrative is to dismiss it.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#113
One can only wonder about the motives when someone posts articles from a news site that isn't even
Little Tich
Jan 2016
#127
Yeah, I agree. It's probably best for him to keep his thoughts to himself.
PersonNumber503602
Jan 2016
#122
The very words of your denial contain the proof of Islamophobia and culture prejudice.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#162
Against multiculturalism and convinced that some cultures are below others.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#176