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In reply to the discussion: German Imam blames Cologne rape victims; 'they wore perfume' [View all]guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)154. As an ex-Christian, you are probably familiar with what Jesus said
about judgment and violence, and war, and rich people. So I will not waste pixels. But the Koran, like the Bible, is not always consistent in message.
The Prophet talked about equal respect for women, and tolerance, and peaceful solutions:
I wonder how many men and women nowadays can digest the idea of calling Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) a "feminist".
That is, a feminist in the sense of one who always stood for the rights of women. In fact, he was just that, though the term applied to the Prophet could sound a bit quaint or anachronistic.
In a cultural milieu where baby girls were buried alive and wives were treated no better than chattel, the Prophet courageously liberated them and raised their status to equal that of men.
Muslims see Muhammad as living up to his God-appointed mission as the final messenger of God, standing up like a titan towering above the barbaric influences of the time to become the spiritual leader of the whole Muslim nation in Arabia as well as everywhere else Islam reached.
"The most valuable thing in the world is a virtuous woman."
- Prophet Muhammad
That is, a feminist in the sense of one who always stood for the rights of women. In fact, he was just that, though the term applied to the Prophet could sound a bit quaint or anachronistic.
In a cultural milieu where baby girls were buried alive and wives were treated no better than chattel, the Prophet courageously liberated them and raised their status to equal that of men.
Muslims see Muhammad as living up to his God-appointed mission as the final messenger of God, standing up like a titan towering above the barbaric influences of the time to become the spiritual leader of the whole Muslim nation in Arabia as well as everywhere else Islam reached.
"The most valuable thing in the world is a virtuous woman."
- Prophet Muhammad
http://www.usislam.org/IslamicYouth/Muhammad/prophet_and_women_in_islam.htm
Islam represented a massive change in thinking about women. That there are some Muslims who do not follow the words of the Prophet is not an indictment of the Prophet, but of his followers.
As to tolerance:
The dealings of the Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, with other religions can best be described in the verse of the Quran:
To you be your religion, to me be mine.
The Arabian Peninsula during the time of the Prophet was a region in which various faiths were present. There were Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, polytheists, and others not affiliated with any religion. When one looks into the life of the Prophet, one may draw on many examples to portray the high level of tolerance shown to people of other faiths.
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/207/viewall/tolerance-of-prophet-towards-other-religions/
I do not know if you are aware that the Koran, like the Bible, was passed down orally until it was later written. It was written over many years, and again like the Bible, there are other writings that must be read with it.
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And claiming that women are responsible for their own rapes ISN'T hate speech?
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#59
Two totally different subjects; but does Islam also allow prostitution? Why, yes, it does!
7962
Jan 2016
#120
Yes, both practices are widely accepted in various interpretations of Islam.
cheapdate
Jan 2016
#135
I can understand the irrelevance part. But how can stating a fact be inflammatory?
totodeinhere
Jan 2016
#168
This is a "public" enterprise where posts are judged by a random group of participants
philosslayer
Jan 2016
#170
there are people putting their heads into the sand and hoping that all the islamic
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#52
You are absolutely right. Not all of them are bad, but too many of them refuse to
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#74
i don't even care if someone assimilates, just don't try to impose sharia law on everyone
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#144
Your question, while a good one, presupposes that England had a right to separate
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#161
the fact is they did not. My point was about what happened between the muslims and the hindus in
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#169
great for your research, but you ignored my original point. Who gives a shit
MariaThinks
Jan 2016
#173
In other future news, German Imam justifies his own severe beating for talking shit. nt
Lucky Luciano
Jan 2016
#22
Then they are rabid animals, not human beings. (apologies to non-human species).
Elmer S. E. Dump
Jan 2016
#24
What's funniest about this is that no one is half-naked in Germany on New Year's Eve
Yo_Mama
Jan 2016
#25
I also read today that they think the Germans need to ban alcohol because they think it
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#63
Not, I think, to most, but the fact that this sort of thing is openly said in Europe
Yo_Mama
Jan 2016
#87
Which holy book would you like me to quote bullshit from, I'll let you pick first
snooper2
Jan 2016
#191
Yes, I am an ex-Christian. That does not mean I disrespect respectable Christians or Muslims
FrodosPet
Jan 2016
#153
As an Islamic scholar, can you tell us what non-Muslims should think about these passages?
FrodosPet
Jan 2016
#137
I think they need to crack down on the source of the problem, which is the radical
smirkymonkey
Jan 2016
#76
Yet catholic priests rarely have a contingent of progressives defending them
PersonNumber503602
Jan 2016
#46
Yet another in a series of "Muslim hating" posts that ignore that Germany has a long standing
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#54
As I previously stated, if rape was a problem exclusive to certain cultures,
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#71
No, he's saying that's the reasoning of the gropers and rapists and that it is wrong
Warpy
Jan 2016
#99
One way to attack information that runs counter to your narrative is to dismiss it.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#113
One can only wonder about the motives when someone posts articles from a news site that isn't even
Little Tich
Jan 2016
#127
Yeah, I agree. It's probably best for him to keep his thoughts to himself.
PersonNumber503602
Jan 2016
#122
The very words of your denial contain the proof of Islamophobia and culture prejudice.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#162
Against multiculturalism and convinced that some cultures are below others.
guillaumeb
Jan 2016
#176