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185. your argument is what trump would use against black people marching and

Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:05 PM

Jan 2016

saying 'black lives matter' and trump would say 'all lives matter'.

it's a way to diffuse the impact - 'nothing to see here'.

btw - some idiot makes a stupid movie about islam and puts it on youtube. muslims riot all over the world and kill innocent people. Who's at fault? The west because we allow freedom of expression. And if it is the west, isn't it just a few nutjobs who put stupid movies together? And isn't it just a few drones? A few drones that kills thousands of innocent civilians.

Also, the west has been taking refugees in and trying to support them. Where are the muslim countries being generous with the refugees. Surely, Saudi Arabia alone could take in all the Syrian refugees. Why aren't they? Or Pakistan? Or the Emerites? All the refugees could be given homes in a small combination of the muslim countries.

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German Imam blames Cologne rape victims; 'they wore perfume' [View all] 7962 Jan 2016 OP

Well that is certainly a helpful response. potone Jan 2016 #1

That'd be like Phelps preaching in favor of gay marriage. n/t christx30 Jan 2016 #3

sick fuck Skittles Jan 2016 #2

If this story was carried by a German broadcaster, branford Jan 2016 #4

Thank you. I wondered about that. 7962 Jan 2016 #5

The German government is failing completely in their handling christx30 Jan 2016 #8

Okay. So the press cannot carry the story. Is there any jwirr Jan 2016 #29

Well, we're doing it right now. christx30 Jan 2016 #39

It's unclear if carrying such a story, by itself or with similar stories, branford Jan 2016 #50

Do you think we're completely uninformed just due to bureaucratic incompetence? DFW Jan 2016 #186

And claiming that women are responsible for their own rapes ISN'T hate speech? smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #59

And pay for it. christx30 Jan 2016 #60

I agree. branford Jan 2016 #64

Correct. +10 840high Jan 2016 #86

That was probably Mohammed's excuse tabasco Jan 2016 #6

Some here would give you a hide for that 7962 Jan 2016 #9

And get you jailed and fined christx30 Jan 2016 #11

And killed in Saudi Arabia Reter Jan 2016 #126

Why would anyone vote to hide a historical fact? totodeinhere Jan 2016 #12

Jesus of Nazareth cured leprosy, too. Also a fact. cheapdate Jan 2016 #53

I doubt you'd get a hide for that, since its not illicit to cure leprosy. 7962 Jan 2016 #68

The Imam is clearly a Muslim and clearly an asshole. cheapdate Jan 2016 #70

Well, marrying a 9 yr old should be frowned upon 7962 Jan 2016 #80

To be clear, you're talking about a "wedding" from 1,400 years ago? cheapdate Jan 2016 #82

I'm referring to the fact that they're doing it TODAY in MANY countries, 7962 Jan 2016 #85

Child marriage is allowed by the state in Canada? No f&%king way. cheapdate Jan 2016 #91

Of course its not allowed. Provincially; but there isnt an actual national law. 7962 Jan 2016 #97

And here's an article that says Atlanta is one of the leading cheapdate Jan 2016 #98

Two totally different subjects; but does Islam also allow prostitution? Why, yes, it does! 7962 Jan 2016 #120

The subject was the despicable beliefs of a German Imam, cheapdate Jan 2016 #132

The fact that both are accepted as part of the Islamic religion. 7962 Jan 2016 #133

Yes, both practices are widely accepted in various interpretations of Islam. cheapdate Jan 2016 #135

Historical facts are frequently hidden philosslayer Jan 2016 #166

I can understand the irrelevance part. But how can stating a fact be inflammatory? totodeinhere Jan 2016 #168

This is a "public" enterprise where posts are judged by a random group of participants philosslayer Jan 2016 #170

Well... Dr. Strange Jan 2016 #187

there are people putting their heads into the sand and hoping that all the islamic MariaThinks Jan 2016 #52

They are fools. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #56

Absolutely right. I've been saying it since this flood started. 7962 Jan 2016 #69

You are absolutely right. Not all of them are bad, but too many of them refuse to smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #74

i don't even care if someone assimilates, just don't try to impose sharia law on everyone MariaThinks Jan 2016 #144

That's just as bad... TipTok Jan 2016 #177

+1 840high Jan 2016 #89

Think about this: guillaumeb Jan 2016 #156

No. The US did not make Pakistan attack India MariaThinks Jan 2016 #158

When the British separated India and Pakistan MariaThinks Jan 2016 #159

Your question, while a good one, presupposes that England had a right to separate guillaumeb Jan 2016 #161

the fact is they did not. My point was about what happened between the muslims and the hindus in MariaThinks Jan 2016 #169

England controlled India until it was forced out. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #171

great for your research, but you ignored my original point. Who gives a shit MariaThinks Jan 2016 #173

Can I take your "who gives a shit..." guillaumeb Jan 2016 #174

you won't answer my point at all. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #175

The answer to your question is that violence is bad. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #178

that's a nonanswer but i'll answer your questions MariaThinks Jan 2016 #180

I would add on thing to your list: guillaumeb Jan 2016 #182

Bangladesh happened because east Pakistan refugees were MariaThinks Jan 2016 #183

The "how many" argument as a comparison for which guillaumeb Jan 2016 #184

your argument is what trump would use against black people marching and MariaThinks Jan 2016 #185

While we disagree on some matters, the exchange has been interesting. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #189

your last point - the syrian refugees are being created by muslims. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #190

the radical muslims 'few' are killing MariaThinks Jan 2016 #179

The US military kills innocent people around the world every day. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #181

But there were important political reasons he did that FrodosPet Jan 2016 #20

The "men" he refers to are nothing more than animals, apparently. crim son Jan 2016 #7

Really. No one I know. Such nonsense we hear!! nt 7962 Jan 2016 #10

Well, Mr. Abu-Yusuf, speaking of inflammatory and provocative behavior... jberryhill Jan 2016 #13

Deport his ass... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #14

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #57

Just Stryder Jan 2016 #15

I think that European governments should make it clear to refugees Beacool Jan 2016 #16

WAIT A MINUTE !! FairWinds Jan 2016 #17

Google is your friend. branford Jan 2016 #18

So the DP Platform says we cannot . . FairWinds Jan 2016 #19

You actually see "dont criticize Israel" in the DP Platform? Where? 7962 Jan 2016 #21

Criticize Israel all you want. branford Jan 2016 #58

Are you truly denying this happened leftynyc Jan 2016 #41

Leave the comfort of 840high Jan 2016 #90

OK,more information is coming out on this propaganda . . FairWinds Jan 2016 #109

In other future news, German Imam justifies his own severe beating for talking shit. nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2016 #22

No kidding. christx30 Jan 2016 #23

*snort* smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #62

Then they are rabid animals, not human beings. (apologies to non-human species). Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #24

What's funniest about this is that no one is half-naked in Germany on New Year's Eve Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #25

I also read today that they think the Germans need to ban alcohol because they think it smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #63

Backing up your post: christx30 Jan 2016 #73

Not, I think, to most, but the fact that this sort of thing is openly said in Europe Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #87

Yes, I read some of that in German interviews. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #84

Castrate those men who think it okay to rape, mutilate and bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #26

Yeah, he's a horrible human being Mufaddal Jan 2016 #27

It's not bigorty to say christx30 Jan 2016 #30

I think you misunderstood Mufaddal Jan 2016 #32

Is it a historical fact? Yes. christx30 Jan 2016 #33

It's actually been the subject of long dispute among Muslim scholars Mufaddal Jan 2016 #35

The Imam is saying that it's ok to rape women christx30 Jan 2016 #37

Again, that's some nice liberal racism Mufaddal Jan 2016 #40

Are you a woman? leftynyc Jan 2016 #42

Mufaddel is a male name TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #114

Thanks leftynyc Jan 2016 #139

Condoning that behavior is backwards. christx30 Jan 2016 #47

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #188

If you're an Islamic scholar, then you probably already know whats allowed. 7962 Jan 2016 #49

Anyone who blames rape on the victim awoke_in_2003 Jan 2016 #88

Nice to read some sanity here. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #102

Thanks for the welcome Mufaddal Jan 2016 #110

You have very few posts. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #115

Very few posts because I just joined. Mufaddal Jan 2016 #117

I am not tolerant of any religion that is not supportive TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #121

K thanks for the reductionist views and inductive reasoning Mufaddal Jan 2016 #125

Not expert. Just not in denial, either. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #128

That's cool Mufaddal Jan 2016 #129

Fundamentalists! Fundamentalists of all stripes. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #130

Which holy book would you like me to quote bullshit from, I'll let you pick first snooper2 Jan 2016 #191

The religion groups do have non-believers who post. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #116

Jesus supported punitive amputations and beheadings? FrodosPet Jan 2016 #138

Are you saying that only followers of Islam engaged in these practices? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #148

Wow! Total question avoidance! FrodosPet Jan 2016 #150

By your reply, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #151

Yes, I am an ex-Christian. That does not mean I disrespect respectable Christians or Muslims FrodosPet Jan 2016 #153

As an ex-Christian, you are probably familiar with what Jesus said guillaumeb Jan 2016 #154

If defending rape, child marriage & prostitution is "sanity", I'll pass. 7962 Jan 2016 #123

As an Islamic scholar, can you tell us what non-Muslims should think about these passages? FrodosPet Jan 2016 #137

I think they need to crack down on the source of the problem, which is the radical smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #76

And the right will take advantage of the christx30 Jan 2016 #79

Should have been done long ago, but they wont do it. I dont know why. 7962 Jan 2016 #124

Yeah, there's anti-Muslim sentiment on this thread TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #45

Truth is not bigotry. 840high Jan 2016 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #28

How big a following does he have? Bradical79 Jan 2016 #31

Putting aside the source issue MosheFeingold Jan 2016 #36

Saudi Wahabis itcfish Jan 2016 #44

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #34

Sad part is that many of his flock would agree with this including flamingdem Jan 2016 #38

Just Like the Catholic Priests itcfish Jan 2016 #43

Yet catholic priests rarely have a contingent of progressives defending them PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #46

We cut the balls off a dog that humps your leg NickB79 Jan 2016 #48

these imams don't seem to have any sympathy for women. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #51

Yet another in a series of "Muslim hating" posts that ignore that Germany has a long standing guillaumeb Jan 2016 #54

This Egyptian woman disagrees with you Dems to Win Jan 2016 #136

Read my post #96 with many statistics from a variety of sources. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #147

More information that might help you: guillaumeb Jan 2016 #55

If you have a domestic problem with sexual assault of women, branford Jan 2016 #61

Does the German culture tolerate rape? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #65

You're asking the wrong question. branford Jan 2016 #66

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #67

As I previously stated, if rape was a problem exclusive to certain cultures, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #71

No culture has eliminated rape, or is likely do to so. branford Jan 2016 #77

Rape in an epidemic, and has been for centuries. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #96

Besides the fact that many of those statistics are questionable, at best, branford Jan 2016 #104

"Questionable" because they do not fit your conclusions? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #105

xactly 840high Jan 2016 #94

see post 96 guillaumeb Jan 2016 #103

Today's story from Deutsch Welle Dems to Win Jan 2016 #72

I did a search of this story last night and found it only on right wing sites Warpy Jan 2016 #75

Well, when this is all you're used to... christx30 Jan 2016 #78

Exactly, and it's why the Imam explained himself above ^^ Warpy Jan 2016 #92

Quote from the above article. christx30 Jan 2016 #95

No, he's saying that's the reasoning of the gropers and rapists and that it is wrong Warpy Jan 2016 #99

QUote from OP: christx30 Jan 2016 #100

See post 72 7962 Jan 2016 #81

You can easily find the video of the interview (I already posted a link). branford Jan 2016 #83

And you, or others here, can easily read post 96 guillaumeb Jan 2016 #101

Yes, we all saw your bullshit. plus5mace Jan 2016 #106

One way to attack information that runs counter to your narrative is to dismiss it. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #113

Your arguments, at best, favor limiting entry and immigration branford Jan 2016 #107

You mischaracterize my arguments. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #149

You didn't address my points again. branford Jan 2016 #152

"Israel National News" is a right-wing racist israeli news site. Little Tich Jan 2016 #108

The only question is: christx30 Jan 2016 #111

One can only wonder about the motives when someone posts articles from a news site that isn't even Little Tich Jan 2016 #127

That is still better than excusing rape. christx30 Jan 2016 #131

It seems as if the Imams words were taken out of context Little Tich Jan 2016 #134

So "thats just how they are" is supposed to be a BETTER explanation? 7962 Jan 2016 #143

That's pretty much what Trump said christx30 Jan 2016 #145

I'm finding it hard to find the video of him PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #118

The "context" is still terrible, branford Jan 2016 #119

Yeah, I agree. It's probably best for him to keep his thoughts to himself. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #122

While many forms of prejudice are criticized at DU, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #155

Oh, I completely agree. Little Tich Jan 2016 #157

If I posted similar things about nearly any other people, or religions, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #163

This isn't anti-Muslim or Islamophobia. christx30 Jan 2016 #160

The very words of your denial contain the proof of Islamophobia and culture prejudice. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #162

I am in the US. christx30 Jan 2016 #164

I am not certain if you read my questions. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #165

Wow bdwker Jan 2016 #167

I'm against pretending everything is hunky dory christx30 Jan 2016 #172

Against multiculturalism and convinced that some cultures are below others. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #176

Does this story make an appearance anywhere else? crim son Jan 2016 #140

See post 72. N/t christx30 Jan 2016 #141

Thank you. I normally make a point of reading a thread so I am not redundant crim son Jan 2016 #142

ironic n/t Enrique Jan 2016 #146

Yes, yes it is, because now anybody is permitted to kick this Imam's ass Quantess Jan 2016 #192