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happyslug

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30. The Case was lost because of overcharging....
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:39 AM - Edit history (2)

There was more then enough evidence to support a Manslaughter conviction, that OJ killed both persons without justification. On the other hand, the evidence that supported a MURDER conviction, i.e. evidence of premeditation, simply did not exist. If the Jury found that OJ had had a good time with with ex-wife that morning (Which was stated in the trial) and thought he could gain her back, and in that belief drove back to her house and saw her with another man and became so angry that he killed them, there is NO premeditation and thus NOT murder. THE DA tried to present evidence of such premeditation but none of it held up.

When OJ's attorney asked the judge to rule that the charge be either reduced to manslaughter OR manslaughter be eliminated as a lesser included offense on the ground the defense for the defenses for both murder and manslaughter conflicted with each other, and the Judge gave that choice to the DA,and the DA decided to to try OJ for Murder not manslaughter, the case was over. The evidence supported Manslaughter, an unlawful killing without premeditation, the evidence did NOT support premeditation and thus did not support a conviction of Murder.

Thus it is the fault of the DA, but it was NOT bad handling of the evidence, but over charging, In most abuse cases where the victim is killed, it is Manslaughter for the abuse that lead to the death is rarely premeditated. I suspect had the DA opt for Manslaughter instead of Murder, OJ attorneys would have had him change his plea to Nolo Contende, i.e. no contest to the charge. A Nolo Contende plea meant he would be treated as if he plead guiltily, but that plea could not be used against him in any subsequent Civil Action. The reason for that, given the evidence, the DA could have come into court in clown outfits and still get a conviction for Manslaughter, THE DA wanted to give a jury a choice convict OJ for murder, or see OJ walk, hoping the Jury given that choice would convict OJ of Murder despite the evidence.

That case is an example of bad prosecution against a well paid and prepared defense team. The DA thought they could get an conviction of Murder on evidence that only supported Manslaughter on the grounds the Jury would see that OJ did the crime and not want him to walk. The problem was the Jury saw the evidence, understood the instructions of the Judge and voted that OJ did not commit MURDER (Manslaughter was NOT an offer in front of them). Bad lawyering by the DA.

Right where Fuhrman buried it. nt bananas Mar 2016 #1
And that's why the cops sat on it. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #2
So they wouldn't get a conviction Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #4
*snort* n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #22
That's what I figure. Wilms Mar 2016 #3
Yea - when I want to plant evidence cpwm17 Mar 2016 #5
Not like he hadn't a history of evidence planting. Wilms Mar 2016 #6
OJ owned the shoes that made the bloody shoe prints, something he denied in the trial. cpwm17 Mar 2016 #8
To be fair if you asked me if I owned a shoe made by x company I probably would have to go cstanleytech Mar 2016 #34
I'd assume if you owned a pair of Magli shoes, you'd know. Chan790 Mar 2016 #46
I think that did come out at trial alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #49
The Bruno Magli shoes, size 12, were ID'd as the murder's shoes before the trial cpwm17 Mar 2016 #51
Ah, thanks alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #52
You bury it where it CAN be found-- at such a time as it's needed or fits the case you're building. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #7
Yep! I'm sure Furhman planned on "finding" it at the right time. brush Mar 2016 #11
It was found. In 1998 according to the article Matariki Mar 2016 #21
Another article says it was found 12 years ago. StevieM Mar 2016 #36
Figure this: wheniwasincongress Mar 2016 #27
Here's something I would ask people. Wilms Mar 2016 #28
That's actually been a common school of thought. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #31
I have not heard it regarding OJ. Wilms Mar 2016 #32
I agree, framing is not cool. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #37
Or they covered up who really did it... Wilms Mar 2016 #39
Why would Furman bury it? Reter Mar 2016 #56
Poor O.J., Still trying to frame him after all these years. olddad56 Mar 2016 #9
Well DNA tech has made great leaps since then Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #10
I'm not watching the People vs. OJ, but I am dying for the return of the Americans. StevieM Mar 2016 #29
wtf PatrynXX Mar 2016 #12
knife is useless since chain of evidence broken Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #13
Well, he was acquitted anyway, so it really doesn't matter. tabasco Mar 2016 #24
True dat Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #25
Unless of course cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #45
Wow... SoapBox Mar 2016 #14
From the OP: tammywammy Mar 2016 #15
Thanks... SoapBox Mar 2016 #18
Another article says it was found 12 years ago, not 18. StevieM Mar 2016 #38
I was flipping across and came to CNN... Fritz67 Mar 2016 #16
Like "Ichingcarpenter" said above... C Moon Mar 2016 #20
but it is a national distraction Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #41
True C Moon Mar 2016 #44
The coroner said the knife had a 6 inch blade TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #17
the idiotic part rtracey Mar 2016 #19
It's deeply unlikely alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #50
The case was lost due to faulty evidence handling. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #23
Probably to make him look guilty... scscholar Mar 2016 #26
The Case was lost because of overcharging.... happyslug Mar 2016 #30
No lesser included offense? Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #53
OJ was charged with both Murder and Manslaughter happyslug Mar 2016 #55
Not to mention an officer being caught committing perjury on the stand sure as hell didnt help cstanleytech Mar 2016 #35
A terrible job by Clark and her team TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #57
May be unrelated, but Marcia Clark has a book coming out ... LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #33
Are Donald Trump's fingerprints on the knife??!? Fozzledick Mar 2016 #40
I don't know whose fingerprints are on it, but I heard they found... TrollBuster9090 Mar 2016 #42
Glen Edward Rogers a serial killer also suspect Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #47
That's interesting but cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #43
I can't believe we are gonna go down this road again lol! NWCorona Mar 2016 #48
This OP should be locked!!! The person who said this said tonight that it was "just a joke". Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #54
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