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happyslug

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55. OJ was charged with both Murder and Manslaughter
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:01 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

But OJ's defense team presented the judge the argument that the defense for either conflicted with each other. With the murder charge intent and premeditation would be the issues, in a manslaughter charge premeditation was not an issue. In a manslaughter case intent is still needed to be shown, but intent to scare someone would have been sufficient. I.e. No need to prove OJ intended to kill the victims, just that OJ had killed them with intent to do some harm.

Shirapo convinced the Judge the two charges were incompatible and one of them had to be dropped. The judge gave that choice to the prosecution who opted for murder. I do abuse work, but PFAs not criminal charges, but keep abreast of other aspects of abuse. In almost all cases of death do to abuse it is manslaughter not murder for killing the victim was NEVER the intent of the abuser. No intent to kill, no premeditation, no murder. On the other hand the abuse that caused the death was intended to cause some harm to the victim and thus enough intent to justify a manslaughter conviction.

Given the choice between murder and manslaughter the DA should have opted for murder, but the DA thought this was the case to get him elected judge, so he decided on murder. The assistant DAs doing the actual trial work also saw this as a high profile case that they could ride to higher positions, thus also agreed with the murder charge. When the jury said it was NOT murder, it goes back blew up in their faces, the DA lost the next election.

Right where Fuhrman buried it. nt bananas Mar 2016 #1
And that's why the cops sat on it. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #2
So they wouldn't get a conviction Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #4
*snort* n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #22
That's what I figure. Wilms Mar 2016 #3
Yea - when I want to plant evidence cpwm17 Mar 2016 #5
Not like he hadn't a history of evidence planting. Wilms Mar 2016 #6
OJ owned the shoes that made the bloody shoe prints, something he denied in the trial. cpwm17 Mar 2016 #8
To be fair if you asked me if I owned a shoe made by x company I probably would have to go cstanleytech Mar 2016 #34
I'd assume if you owned a pair of Magli shoes, you'd know. Chan790 Mar 2016 #46
I think that did come out at trial alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #49
The Bruno Magli shoes, size 12, were ID'd as the murder's shoes before the trial cpwm17 Mar 2016 #51
Ah, thanks alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #52
You bury it where it CAN be found-- at such a time as it's needed or fits the case you're building. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #7
Yep! I'm sure Furhman planned on "finding" it at the right time. brush Mar 2016 #11
It was found. In 1998 according to the article Matariki Mar 2016 #21
Another article says it was found 12 years ago. StevieM Mar 2016 #36
Figure this: wheniwasincongress Mar 2016 #27
Here's something I would ask people. Wilms Mar 2016 #28
That's actually been a common school of thought. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #31
I have not heard it regarding OJ. Wilms Mar 2016 #32
I agree, framing is not cool. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2016 #37
Or they covered up who really did it... Wilms Mar 2016 #39
Why would Furman bury it? Reter Mar 2016 #56
Poor O.J., Still trying to frame him after all these years. olddad56 Mar 2016 #9
Well DNA tech has made great leaps since then Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #10
I'm not watching the People vs. OJ, but I am dying for the return of the Americans. StevieM Mar 2016 #29
wtf PatrynXX Mar 2016 #12
knife is useless since chain of evidence broken Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #13
Well, he was acquitted anyway, so it really doesn't matter. tabasco Mar 2016 #24
True dat Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #25
Unless of course cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #45
Wow... SoapBox Mar 2016 #14
From the OP: tammywammy Mar 2016 #15
Thanks... SoapBox Mar 2016 #18
Another article says it was found 12 years ago, not 18. StevieM Mar 2016 #38
I was flipping across and came to CNN... Fritz67 Mar 2016 #16
Like "Ichingcarpenter" said above... C Moon Mar 2016 #20
but it is a national distraction Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #41
True C Moon Mar 2016 #44
The coroner said the knife had a 6 inch blade TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #17
the idiotic part rtracey Mar 2016 #19
It's deeply unlikely alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #50
The case was lost due to faulty evidence handling. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #23
Probably to make him look guilty... scscholar Mar 2016 #26
The Case was lost because of overcharging.... happyslug Mar 2016 #30
No lesser included offense? Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #53
OJ was charged with both Murder and Manslaughter happyslug Mar 2016 #55
Not to mention an officer being caught committing perjury on the stand sure as hell didnt help cstanleytech Mar 2016 #35
A terrible job by Clark and her team TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #57
May be unrelated, but Marcia Clark has a book coming out ... LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #33
Are Donald Trump's fingerprints on the knife??!? Fozzledick Mar 2016 #40
I don't know whose fingerprints are on it, but I heard they found... TrollBuster9090 Mar 2016 #42
Glen Edward Rogers a serial killer also suspect Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #47
That's interesting but cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #43
I can't believe we are gonna go down this road again lol! NWCorona Mar 2016 #48
This OP should be locked!!! The person who said this said tonight that it was "just a joke". Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #54
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