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26. IMO it started 9 years before fox started, when reagan killed the fairness doctrine
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:33 PM
Dec 2016

in 1987, and the right started buying up all the loudest radio stations in the country and put guys like limbaugh on them.

talk radio is what made fox, and now trump, possible

they put carnival barkers on every corner and stump in the country yelling at liberals that their sisters were whores, their brothers thieves and their ideas treasonous. the left liberals dems responded by beginning a 30- year period of covering their ears and walking by, ignoring it while a few hundred dipshits hiding behind call screeners kicked our ass over and over.

fox is the visual icing on the lie turd pie of talk radio. it can't do the unnoticed unchallenged repetition needed to sell the alternate reality that made trump possible. take the millions of illegal voters lie. they've been using non existent voter fraud lies big time since 2000 to sell their voter suppression but ramped it up this summer to say 2mil illegal aliens were getting drivers licenses from obama and dems so they could vote. why the fuck doesnt the dem party know that and why didn't they respond to it. and even after the fact why didn't dems in media respond to trump and hacks repeating the lie with something like "well, limbaugh's been saying that for months but it's a lie" etc.

thirty years of that and now there's fake news on the internet? guess what- on nov 29 limbaugh assaulted net neutrality explaining trump needs to end it because it allows govt to control the internet!!! him saying it means trump is planning it. limbaugh's imbecile audience knows he means liberal big govt so they'll help by screaming at their reps when it comes up. he explained, like he did 20 yrs ago to deregulate media, that competition will lower prices! and they'll believe him because the left has no clue what those stations are screaming all day, don't care, give it a free speech free ride, and ignore it while it kicks their ass.

hillary called it a vast rw conspiracy and everyone laughed at her

and still there is no organized response, with purists hammering away on their tenth made-by-slave-labor computing device in 2 years complaining about how their reps lost track of some of their unicorns and hillary and bill tried to make more than civil service money, looking at the prospect of SS protection the rest of their lives from dittoheads who thought they were running a child sex slave opertation under a pizza joint.

worse than that probably 1/3 of the 1200 or so stations kicking our ass, many of the loudest ones, depend on our university sports to attract advertising!

if you know any activists, groups, newspapers at those universities send them this:

xxxxxxx

Your school is on a list of 88 universities at republiconradio.org that broadcast sports on 257 of Rush Limbaugh’s 600 radio stations. They could also be called Trump radio stations.

Your university is not only mocking it’s own mission statement, it is undermining the interests of most of its students, faculty, employees, and surrounding communities.

That makes your own school a legitimate place to protest any issue related to the Trump agenda.

Many of those relationships began prior to the 90’s, before they all began broadcasting propaganda for one party. There is no reason for those schools not to start looking for apolitical alternatives immediately.

The school administration will claim that it does not make business decisions based on politics.This is a question all those schools need to ask: If a radio station went to KKK programming would the university still let its mascot be used to sell a KKK agenda?

Those stations weigh in on elections for university regents and selection of administration including presidents and chancellors - is there a conflict of interest?

All of those stations will continue to deny global warming, deny reproductive rights to women, excuse racism and homophobia, and promote and excuse the Trump agenda. Republicans want to privatize public education, social security, and the post office. Their policies will raise college tuition. They want to reverse gains in health care reform. They want to end net neutrality. Those stations will be cheerleaders for the next war, as they were for the last one.

The station pays a licensing company a fee and the school gets a part of that. The station then gets to use the school logos, mascot, and community standing to attract advertising revenue. It gets to declare things like “850 KOA, home of the Buffs,and Rush Limbaugh!” Compared with TV licensing revenue talk radio stations pay very little.

Advertising revenue is used to fund station operating costs and pay for the national and local talk show hosts that broadcast from them most of the day.

Except for occasional innocuous programming all of those stations operate exclusively for the benefit of the Republican Party. They are coordinated with national and state GOP and their allied think tanks

If Trump would pay $1000/hr for a radio ad, 1200 nationwide stations x 15hrs/day x 5 days/week are worth about $5BIL/yr FREE for Trump. 255 x $75,000 = $19,125,000/WEEK FREE for Trump, or about $1BIL/yr endorsed by institutions of higher learning.

Those stations, licensed to operate in the public interest, are heavily dependent on the schools they parasitize and they all:
- deny global warming and science
- use public airwaves to sell voter suppression legislation
- use and excuse racism, misogyny, homophobia, and hate to divide communities
- work to deny reproductive rights for women and access to contraception
- fight environmental regulation, push fracking, and always support fossil fuel solutions over renewables
- fight to defund and privatize public education, attack teachers and work to lower their salaries, attack their unions, push voucher solutions and standardized testing, and obstruct efforts to lower student debt
- fight efforts to increase minimum wage
- undermine the economic and environmental interests of their communities
- use public airways to repeat propaganda that is demonstrably false and continue to lie after being corrected
- use public airwaves but use call screeners to exclude dissenting callers

How much revenue does the licensing company pay for radio broadcasting portion compared to the TV portion? Could donors make up the difference if there is a monetary loss? If there is a loss, how does it compare with the harm it is doing to its own principles, funding, students, and surrounding communities?

Are they violating their 501c3 tax exempt status? Here’s the IRS rule for political activity:
“Political activity. -  If any of the activities (whether or not substantial) of your organization consist of participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office, your organization will not qualify for tax-exempt status under section 501(c)(3). Such participation or intervention includes the publishing or distributing of statements.”

No university has a good excuse not to reexamine it’s relationship with partisan radio stations and look for apolitical alternatives. If an existing contract cannot be voided without penalty, can donors be found to cover it?

Any university, state or private, supporting Republican talk radio is shooting itself in the foot, demeaning its mission statement and professed goals and values, and harming its students’ futures.

Here is that list of universities ($1000 x 15hrs/day x 5days = $75,000/week):

ALABAMA 8 $600,000 Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 1 $75,000 Arizona St. 1
ARKANSAS 3 $225,000 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 $375,000 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 $300,000 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1  $75,000 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 $1,500,000 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 $1,050,000 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7 $525,000 Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 $525,000 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 $825,000 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 $375,000 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 $300,000 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 $225,000 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 $225,000 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 $150,000 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 $75,000 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 $1,425,000 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 $300,000 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 $450,000 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 $450,000 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 $75,000 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 $150,000 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 $225,000 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 $525,000 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 $1,200,000 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 $750,000 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 $375,000 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 $900,000 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 $1,050,000 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 $300,000 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 $525,000 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 $1,200,000 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 $75,000 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 $450,000 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 $450,000 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 $150,000 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 5 $225,000 Wisconsin 5

There is no excuse for any school to support Trump radio.

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They might start by taking a hard long look at fox news. That's where it started. shraby Dec 2016 #1
Hear, hear! Raster Dec 2016 #3
They need to shut down right-wing hate radio GreydeeThos Dec 2016 #5
If only. Nt JudyM Dec 2016 #16
That's definitely when it hit the mainstream. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #6
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, volstork Dec 2016 #17
Why is no one taking on these outlets? Nwgirl503 Dec 2016 #25
IMO it started 9 years before fox started, when reagan killed the fairness doctrine certainot Dec 2016 #26
agreed and what can we do? lancelyons Dec 2016 #28
have to do more than that to stop him before he gets in certainot Dec 2016 #29
A few weeks ago-there were a few articles saying Trump would end Net neutrality... riversedge Dec 2016 #33
limbaugh says he will which means he's ben given the job to sell it certainot Dec 2016 #34
Words of wisdom from our REAL president-elect. tenorly Dec 2016 #2
Yep! She's my President! True_Blue Dec 2016 #35
asbad as fox news is DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #4
Zuckerberg's decision to disseminate/profit from fake news is not a first amendment issue. PSPS Dec 2016 #8
Facebook cannot monitor every single post that is made xor Dec 2016 #39
Reddit and 4chan, too. LisaM Dec 2016 #9
The first step for people is to identify and call out fake-news purveyors Hortensis Dec 2016 #7
It's gotten to where we need consumer protection, as with food labeling, etc. Except that it only JudyM Dec 2016 #19
I agree entirely. Hortensis Dec 2016 #20
Thom Hartmann had an interesting take on this today, before we become truth police rurallib Dec 2016 #10
Washington Post had an OpEd that listed a bunch of sites like that as fake LisaM Dec 2016 #11
The DU is full of fake news. Indydem Dec 2016 #24
I agree with you 100% xor Dec 2016 #41
Better take care of the fraudulent election strategies the Repugs are doing first. The 26% backwash diane in sf Dec 2016 #12
K&R JHan Dec 2016 #13
I said the same thing in a rant this morning! Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #14
Thanks for the link. I missed it. riversedge Dec 2016 #22
What about the challenge of "real" news too. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #15
There's malicious fake news right on prime time, and nationwide cable. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2016 #18
A few other comments about Hillary's speech here... riversedge Dec 2016 #21
Well, Hillary. Maybe if your large donors got together and bought a tv station KittyWampus Dec 2016 #23
Fake news has been around since Rush Limbaugh and earlier including Fox News. lancelyons Dec 2016 #27
I understand Hillary's point but I prefer to be my own filter NWCorona Dec 2016 #30
Not everyone is like you - most people literally read headlines Justice Dec 2016 #38
republicans fox and their birther crap, started the lie news. Sunlei Dec 2016 #31
Pope Warns Media Over Sin Of Spreading Fake News, Smearing Politicians riversedge Dec 2016 #32
Now about that shadow government... lonestarnot Dec 2016 #36
Thank you, Rivers! Good on Hillary winner of the Popular Vote! Cha Dec 2016 #37
You bet. Glad she is speaking out on this important issue. riversedge Dec 2016 #40
People believe that crap because they want to believe it. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #42
And tomorow you'll wake up and find that everything that doesn't support the status quo is "fake" Taitertots Dec 2016 #43
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