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LudwigPastorius

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28. "near the bottom"

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 11:23 AM

Jun 2021

I'm trying to think of another president that incited a violent attempt to circumvent the Constitution and overthrow the United States government, and I'm not coming up with anything.

That alone trumps (sorry) any other measurable presidential quality in determining an overall ranking.

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Historians rank Trump near the bottom of U.S. presidents as Obama rises into the top 10 [View all] MissMillie Jun 2021 OP

If Obama had gotten any kind of congressional support in his last 6 years, he'd be borderline top 5. bearsfootball516 Jun 2021 #1

My top five FDR, Clinton, LBJ, Obama, John Adams nt joetheman Jun 2021 #78

You can't omit Lincoln Sanity Claws Jun 2021 #80

"Near the bottom?" zuul Jun 2021 #2

He's got nowhere to go but down... MissMillie Jun 2021 #6

I Think He's Rated #47 As Of Now COL Mustard Jun 2021 #15

No. 48. Even Mrs Woodrow Wilson in her very brief role ranks ahead of him Norbert Jun 2021 #39

How Could I Forget Edith? COL Mustard Jun 2021 #56

James Buchanan, bad as he was, was far more a real president than Trumpsky. paulkienitz Jun 2021 #49

Buchannan, like Pierce heckles65 Jun 2021 #59

Ulysses Grant's book said Buchanan stole US government property. raging moderate Jun 2021 #66

I did not know that paulkienitz Jun 2021 #79

Yeah that jumped out at me too. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2021 #10

That was wha stuck with me, as well. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #11

Yeah, I'm trying to visualize what PatSeg Jun 2021 #20

My Thought Exactly, Zuul Icono Classless Jerk Jun 2021 #31

My first reaction, too. wnylib Jun 2021 #37

Maybe they don't want to give him bragging rights Warpy Jun 2021 #60

He killed over half a million people by deliberate malfeasance. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #76

?? The thug encouraged and supported insurrection. n/t sarge43 Jun 2021 #67

+1 K&R onetexan Jun 2021 #72

NEAR the bottom?! jmbar2 Jun 2021 #3

Buchanan was pretty terrible. bearsfootball516 Jun 2021 #5

I realize that there were over a million casualties in the Civil war - OhZone Jun 2021 #7

But is ignoring divisions worse than fomenting divisions? I don't think so. Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #9

Depends on the end result. Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #14

After the 1-6 commission ramps up its hearings halfulglas Jun 2021 #29

There is NO way that Trump isn't far and away lapfog_1 Jun 2021 #4

Well, sadly they rated GW at 29 PatSeg Jun 2021 #22

It's amazing how much revionism there has been in favor of Reagan since he died peppertree Jun 2021 #24

And what about Ray-Gun coordinating with Iran to steal the election from Carter ? groundloop Jun 2021 #27

Exactly peppertree Jun 2021 #32

Yes, that is accepted as common PatSeg Jun 2021 #36

I really don't remember him PatSeg Jun 2021 #34

Think: think tanks peppertree Jun 2021 #38

Ah, good point PatSeg Jun 2021 #43

Thank you. peppertree Jun 2021 #63

He'd be about #40 on my list. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #77

Yes PatSeg Jul 2021 #84

There was also accelerating the demise of the Eastern Bloc oldsoftie Jun 2021 #62

Repugs like to SAY that - but the data suggest otherwise peppertree Jun 2021 #64

The USSR Bankrupted Themselves ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #75

Raygun at 9? Incredible. wnylib Jun 2021 #41

I know, mindboggling PatSeg Jun 2021 #45

If the US lasts Dakota Flint Jun 2021 #25

And 1/3 of this country loves him. Under The Radar Jun 2021 #8

TFG, the biggest loser! orwell Jun 2021 #12

For the lack of any experience and any sort of temperament, it's a no-brainer. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2021 #13

With considerable searching, here are the actual rankings hlthe2b Jun 2021 #16

Tied with Franklin Pierce Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 #33

Was looking for this, thank you nt ramen Jun 2021 #58

I am continually amused at how much ole Harry Truman rises in these rankings with time (#6) hlthe2b Jun 2021 #17

He is tied for third to last dsc Jun 2021 #18

And they haven't even seen any indictments yet bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #19

I'm surprised he's as high as 41. They need a minus category for the Slobfather. Vinca Jun 2021 #21

The worst - second only to Dubya peppertree Jun 2021 #23

LOL! Lower than WH Harrison, who served for one month! nuxvomica Jun 2021 #26

Such a pity that the Tecumseh curse wnylib Jun 2021 #46

Agreed Mickju Jun 2021 #54

"near the bottom" LudwigPastorius Jun 2021 #28

Not near bottom seta1950 Jun 2021 #30

Looking at the original article cannabis_flower Jun 2021 #35

It's not that he did anything to be ranked so low, but the opposite Polybius Jun 2021 #44

Seems like... cannabis_flower Jun 2021 #47

Many historians do jmowreader Jun 2021 #65

From the article: Polybius Jun 2021 #40

Considering all the negligent homicide IT caused, IT should be the worst! BlueWavePsych Jun 2021 #42

"public persuasion" is where he gets his strongest marks MissMillie Jun 2021 #48

How can Trump be near the bottom area51 Jun 2021 #50

I know, right? Initech Jun 2021 #69

I wholeheartedly agree... sarchasm Jun 2021 #51

It could be a good thing to continue having him as the face of the GOP. Dreampuff Jun 2021 #52

Something tells me there's a revisionist type or three NoMoreRepugs Jun 2021 #53

TFW Only Andrew Johnson and James Buchanon are worse than you. Sad. GregariousGroundhog Jun 2021 #55

The real headline should be yaesu Jun 2021 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jun 2021 #61

Worst president ever! Initech Jun 2021 #68

Near the bottom?........should be dead last year light years W T F Jun 2021 #70

No Way colsohlibgal Jun 2021 #71

The two ranked worse than him Sgent Jul 2021 #83

I really believe Clinton should be in the top 10 Catherine Vincent Jun 2021 #73

People don't appreciate the importance of his presidency. StevieM Jun 2021 #81

IMO, Clinton should be in the top five. nt oasis Jul 2021 #82

tinkle down ekkkonomikkks should put raygun far lower. ignoring AIDS. his + greensuds pansypoo53219 Jun 2021 #74

Hard to believe he's not AT the bottom Deminpenn Jul 2021 #85

Normally I say that it really takes melm00se Jul 2021 #86