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19. We should be brokering a peace?

Sat Sep 2, 2023, 02:25 PM

Sep 2023

Last edited Sat Sep 2, 2023, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)

How the fuck do we broker a peace when Putin has no intention of brokering a peace that's not beneficial to him all the while murdering innocent civilians?

The only peace that Ukraine should broker is demanding that Russia leave their sovereign territory that they illegally invaded.

Send Ukraine everything they need to defeat this tyrant, and if that means depleted uranium tank rounds, then so be it.

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Reuters: US to send depleted-uranium munitions to Ukraine [View all] BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 OP

Horrible, the Russians and Ukrainians will be paying for this with cancer and birth defects for diane in sf Sep 2023 #1

Bullshit. NNadir Sep 2023 #3

It is unfortunately not: ramen Sep 2023 #8

One can always find a single paper that says this or that. NNadir Sep 2023 #10

Not bullshit - Navajo babies still being born with high levels of uranium in their systems womanofthehills Sep 2023 #23

I would never dispute those findings, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #27

Depleted uranium is not a radiation problem. ManiacJoe Sep 2023 #66

It's less toxic than the lead in bullets Diraven Sep 2023 #5

Yep! I saw the study. newdayneeded Sep 2023 #47

Much better for Ukrainians to be slaughtered by Russians Kennah Sep 2023 #15

There's never been a case of cancer attributed to DU. COL Mustard Sep 2023 #75

Mixed emotions about that. The existential threat is the first priority. paleotn Sep 2023 #2

Well our troops have paid the price for years. Hope22 Sep 2023 #4

Yes, but in the Ukrainians situation the choice is not an easy one. paleotn Sep 2023 #7

Just saying... Hope22 Sep 2023 #9

I believe exposure to Agent Orange and toxic burn sites is far more dangerous than depleted uranium. Martin68 Sep 2023 #14

It's all bad and there are still so many undiagnosed results.... Hope22 Sep 2023 #20

You know what would be nicer? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #22

Agree.... Hope22 Sep 2023 #24

And just to be clear, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #25

The Navajo Nation has high cancer rates & kidney failure from uranium mining womanofthehills Sep 2023 #21

The danger of uranium mining to miners and the surrounding communities is well documented. Martin68 Sep 2023 #50

Kind of wrong - American Navajos have been dealing with toxic uranium since 1944 womanofthehills Sep 2023 #26

??? How is that relevant to my post? How? paleotn Sep 2023 #38

Good. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #6

You'll see turrets popping all over the place. COL Mustard Sep 2023 #76

Toxic as hell orthoclad Sep 2023 #11

+1 hueymahl Sep 2023 #17

US tanks used depleted-uranium shells against Russian-made tanks in Iraq in 2003 and 2004. 4lbs Sep 2023 #12

I thnk radiation is less risk than toxicity orthoclad Sep 2023 #18

DU is like any other heavy metal. COL Mustard Sep 2023 #77

Depleted Uranium James48 Sep 2023 #13

Terrible hueymahl Sep 2023 #16

We should be brokering a peace? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #19

Ok, so how far do we take it hueymahl Sep 2023 #29

You're asking the wrong person, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #33

Or you should answer a legitimate question hueymahl Sep 2023 #41

Again, you're asking the wrong person, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #42

Avoiding the question hueymahl Sep 2023 #43

WWIII will be the certain result if Putin is not stopped by Ukraine. Earth-shine Sep 2023 #64

Ukraine is a unique situation hueymahl Sep 2023 #69

You say this like our diplomats are not talking to theirs. They are. Earth-shine Sep 2023 #71

Force is used as a figure of speech hueymahl Sep 2023 #80

You are a day late and a dollar short with this response. Earth-shine Sep 2023 #81

Threats? hueymahl Sep 2023 #83

Let me ask you this, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #72

I disagree with the premose hueymahl Sep 2023 #79

Putin has made it very clear he wants to revive the Soviet Union MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #82

Not bent on conquest? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #86

Broker a peace with a genocidal, criminal Russian regime? Mysterian Sep 2023 #30

Your right hueymahl Sep 2023 #31

Logic fail Mysterian Sep 2023 #32

Oh, I get it, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #34

Reductio ad Hitlerum hueymahl Sep 2023 #35

So, no coherent answer? nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #36

What's the point of responding to a logical fallacy hueymahl Sep 2023 #39

"logical fallacy" ? EX500rider Sep 2023 #56

I studied symbolic logic in college. Reductio ad Hitlerum is not a logical fallacy. Earth-shine Sep 2023 #65

You may have studied logic, but it doesn't sound like you studied humor hueymahl Sep 2023 #68

But, you're not funny. And you are quite wrong. Earth-shine Sep 2023 #70

Well, I think I'm funny hueymahl Sep 2023 #78

Not funny. Just argumentative. And now on my ignore list. Earth-shine Sep 2023 #84

..... MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #85

Ukraine doesn't have nukes nor is it being provided nukes XorXor Sep 2023 #46

might be better than hundreds of thousands of young men losing their lives and limbs womanofthehills Sep 2023 #37

Would you have said the same thing to the allies in WWII MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #40

Tell the Ukranians Mysterian Sep 2023 #49

The Ukrainains seem to want to defend their soverignty against Russian aggression XorXor Sep 2023 #63

What exactly is the escalation here? XorXor Sep 2023 #45

Broker peace with Putin? Are you willing to let Russia keep the territory they invaded and are Martin68 Sep 2023 #51

I've noticed that conversations don't go very far when talking to people who make such statements XorXor Sep 2023 #62

You trust Putin that much? NickB79 Sep 2023 #54

Excellent Mysterian Sep 2023 #28

I wonder how much benefit this will have XorXor Sep 2023 #44

Russia is using hundreds of tanks, often fortified in place. Tis ammunition would probably be used Martin68 Sep 2023 #52

I'm not following how that would work XorXor Sep 2023 #55

Anti-tank artillery pieces. The D-44 is an 85-millimeter gun that borrowed its barrel from the Martin68 Sep 2023 #57

Can those soviet made guns fire DU tank ammuntion provided by the US or UK, though? XorXor Sep 2023 #61

XorXor, I see your point. I confess I may have made a false assumption. Perhaps the depleted Martin68 Sep 2023 #67

Depleted Uranium is a War Crime róisín_dubh Sep 2023 #48

The is the opinion of some observers. The use if depleted uranium, however, has not been officially Martin68 Sep 2023 #53

The only war crimes going on Elessar Zappa Sep 2023 #58

If we were ever pulled into the ground fight in Ukraine Red Mountain Sep 2023 #59

I slept on stacks of such ammo in the Persian Gulf Kaleva Sep 2023 #60

We used DU munitions in Iraq. Qutzupalotl Sep 2023 #73

"The International Atomic Energy Agency has said that...." EX500rider Sep 2023 #74

Kick BlueWavePsych Sep 2023 #87