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121. RIP Chavez

Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:47 PM

Mar 2013

You thumbed your nose at the oil companies, you improved the lives of millions of Venezuelans.

I once met a newlywed couple who were on their honeymoon in Mexico. They told me a lot about Chavez and how they were once poor but under Chavez were able to go to college and get good jobs. They told me the US hated him because he nationalized the oil and gave the money to help the poor. I went to Caracas in 1985 and it was so poor. I saw a picture of the same area I had been to and it was no longer slums but efficient apartments and the poverty was not like it was in 1985. Anybody who helps poor people lift themselves out of poverty is not at all a bad person vin my opinion. Our media here in the US told us to hate Chavez but I never could. He is no longer in pain. And I feel sorry for the people of Venezuela who lost their leader and saw the good in him.

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Chavez Dead [View all] Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 OP

please add more information asap OKNancy Mar 2013 #1

"The Achievements of Hugo Chavez" JackRiddler Mar 2013 #14

So appropriate. Thanks for posting this. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #23

De nada. A sad moment. JackRiddler Mar 2013 #34

Thanks, Jack. Ghost Dog Mar 2013 #32

Thank you Jack n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #41

Great tribute Jack. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #51

Good for you! another_liberal Mar 2013 #79

RIP President Chavez & thank you for the... Little Star Mar 2013 #83

Thank you, Jack. RILib Mar 2013 #117

He will be missed by the poor of Venezuela. Matilda Mar 2013 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #137

Thank you for sharing this. Delphinus Mar 2013 #140

I originally opened this thread expecting the worst.. Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #153

good riddance rdking647 Mar 2013 #35

I won't miss him, I am worried about the inept government he leaves behind though Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #39

I will say the same thing when the Anglo/American/NATO/BIS/MI6/CIA/IMF empire falls as well Mutatis Mutandis Mar 2013 #76

I'll say the same when all these fucking right wing trolls leave DU. n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #143

love the Grayson quote in your tag Mutatis Mutandis Mar 2013 #145

Thanks. Alan is one of the few heroes I have left. :( n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #148

if you dont like the west rdking647 Mar 2013 #156

It's not your place to tell DU'ers to leave THEIR country. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #158

what kind of rightwing fucking crap is THAT? Skittles Mar 2013 #181

as far as im concerned rdking647 Mar 2013 #188

I want you to watch a few documentaries. antigone382 Mar 2013 #191

No, but structrual adjustment programs and WTO rulings force us all to live for its' benefit. antigone382 Mar 2013 #190

Indeed! n/t bbinacan Mar 2013 #84

Better late than never I suppose... Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 #175

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has died - @AP, @NBCNews Bosonic Mar 2013 #2

again? nt Deep13 Mar 2013 #3

You nailed that. 1983law Mar 2013 #48

CNN details... brooklynite Mar 2013 #4

nbc twitter OKNancy Mar 2013 #5

Here we go......... thelordofhell Mar 2013 #6

Very sad to read this RILib Mar 2013 #7

A heroic, world-historical figure. JackRiddler Mar 2013 #22

Do you always praise murderous dictators? dbackjon Mar 2013 #38

so who did he murder? Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #47

The latter. n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #144

Is that what you call democracy when a progressive leftist wins fair elections? Coyotl Mar 2013 #57

Fair elections? Is that why chavez kept changing the laws? dbackjon Mar 2013 #58

again, who did he murder? Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #61

Bush's failed coup attempt was outsmarted by the democratic forces, fair elections were restored Coyotl Mar 2013 #63

you got nothing.. frylock Mar 2013 #73

Yes, fair elections, won fair and square, is why his party had the authority reorg Mar 2013 #109

Uhhh, who did he murder? EOTE Mar 2013 #122

I'm fairly sure that poster is working for the CIA. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #124

Maybe it's Mr. Danger lurking on DU. Coyotl Mar 2013 #127

That's at least possible. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #164

Propaganda works .... Coyotl Mar 2013 #177

You keep saying that. Hissyspit Mar 2013 #69

Evidence wouldn't be flaming. Coyotl Mar 2013 #72

I won't give you the response you deserve. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #71

Good on you. That's the kind of reason and restraint i enjoyed in Hugo. Coyotl Mar 2013 #74

LMAO - restraint? Tell that to the families of his victims dbackjon Mar 2013 #89

i'd love to. you've been asked to provide examples.. frylock Mar 2013 #92

Examples have been provided many times at DU dbackjon Mar 2013 #94

well then it should be a simple task for you to cut and paste those examples right now.. frylock Mar 2013 #107

Instead of slithering away and starting a new thread Coyotl Mar 2013 #178

You are utterly full of shit. EOTE Mar 2013 #126

No kidding (but not very Hugo of you). I posted Hugo's Mr. Danger video in the wrong spot. Coyotl Mar 2013 #130

I respect politeness, but it's not for me. EOTE Mar 2013 #134

I deeply respect having to call an ass an ass, Hugo preferred donkey.... Coyotl Mar 2013 #141

glad to see the sickening Hoo-rah American jingoistic revisionism is alive and well on DU Mutatis Mutandis Mar 2013 #78

Has nothing to do with Hoo-rah Jingoism dbackjon Mar 2013 #87

then I suggest your 'reality' detector is in need of repair Mutatis Mutandis Mar 2013 #96

Yes he was! bbinacan Mar 2013 #88

Evidence please? Hissyspit Mar 2013 #113

Only on those occasions when a US president does something good. JackRiddler Mar 2013 #106

I'll be dancing for joy NeoConsSuck Mar 2013 #152

...whoa. SoapBox Mar 2013 #8

so that 'breathing trouble' he was having yesterday was really a death rattle. nt Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2013 #9

Ouch 1983law Mar 2013 #50

Reuters: Venezuela's Hugo Chavez dies from cancer - VP Ghost Dog Mar 2013 #10

Release the jackals mikeysnot Mar 2013 #11

Happened on Hannity Hayabusa Mar 2013 #160

Not entirely unexpected, I'm afraid. Warpy Mar 2013 #12

It's a sad day for those of us on the left. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #13

They've come too far to turn back. Hoping for the people to continue their progress. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #18

The politics of the entire continent has shifted. A new generation is benefitting from Chavez's and Coyotl Mar 2013 #86

Very sad news. nt TBF Mar 2013 #28

Extremely sad news dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #15

RIP Hugo - you were truly man of the people AAO Mar 2013 #16

Here's to wishing that the people of Venezuela come through this ok jzodda Mar 2013 #17

good post Kali Mar 2013 #170

No one should celebrate this news. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #19

Well spoken. dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #26

Grave dancing is a DU art form hack89 Mar 2013 #108

The main difference about that particular "South American strong man" ... Nihil Mar 2013 #184

So sad. polly7 Mar 2013 #20

I knew that was coming. caseymoz Mar 2013 #21

Also confirmed by NBC News... n/t Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #24

A great warrior for the interests of the poor, sick and hungry. God bless Chavez. harun Mar 2013 #25

TeleSUR reorg Mar 2013 #27

Certainly a polarizing figure. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #29

If you do ANYTHING good at all, anything that matters, you're gonna be polarizing. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #30

Good post Rider3 Mar 2013 #31

To be fair, how many of us would support a free press shaayecanaan Mar 2013 #105

Sad news. timdog44 Mar 2013 #33

Venezuela announces death of President Chavez struggle4progress Mar 2013 #36

Good riddance to a bad dictator dbackjon Mar 2013 #37

"Murderous?" Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #46

A democracy is a democracy, and democracies have Presidents, a difference of note. Coyotl Mar 2013 #70

He is not a dictator if he is elected and the only thing he murdered were tax exemptions for the oil pam4water Mar 2013 #80

You should take your uninformed slanders and start your own "pissing on the dead" thread. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #82

Read any of his screeds. Puglover Mar 2013 #159

and a troll is a troll.. frylock Mar 2013 #97

Post evidence. Hissyspit Mar 2013 #115

idiotic post. Their elections were more open, way more open, than ours. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #128

Descansa en paz, se�or Presidente liberaltrucker Mar 2013 #40

and now our brave oil companies can get back to colonizing Venezuela Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #42

He called President George W. Bush "the devil" and "the king of vacations. JeffHead Mar 2013 #43

He gave his life to his country flamingdem Mar 2013 #44

He gave his life to his country flamingdem Mar 2013 #45

R.I.P. truebluegreen Mar 2013 #49

Let's hope unreadierLizard Mar 2013 #52

not to mention the total corruption, and uncontrolled violence Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #56

He didn't take anybody's freedom of expression or stifle the press and media. Jazzgirl Mar 2013 #81

Ant government rhetoric that was against the law? totodeinhere Mar 2013 #103

No but they were advocating an overthrow of the government Jazzgirl Mar 2013 #114

Advocating that should be against the law. I agree. But Chavez shut down media outlets totodeinhere Mar 2013 #119

Did he beat, arrest, jail and fine protestors the way JDPriestly Mar 2013 #85

well stated frylock Mar 2013 #99

Nobody who busts Chavez on that stuff actually cares about democracy Ken Burch Mar 2013 #165

Um? unreadierLizard Mar 2013 #166

Viva Hugo, a Bolivarian champion of South American democracy, a great representative of his people Coyotl Mar 2013 #53

+10,000 n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #55

And so passes another champion of the people. RIP craigmatic Mar 2013 #54

Let's not pretend we have the right to dissent in the US. Kalidurga Mar 2013 #59

Viva Chavez - Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2013 #60

R.I.P. magic59 Mar 2013 #62

May he rest in peace Marrah_G Mar 2013 #64

Expect to see the Dow shoot up. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #65

Very sad day for Venezuela. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #66

I will always remember his UN address Botany Mar 2013 #67

Dick Cheney outlived another of his enemies PuffedMica Mar 2013 #68

Victory to the people of Venezuela in their upcoming battle with the CIA and Big Oil Ken Burch Mar 2013 #75

I'm very sad to hear that. another_liberal Mar 2013 #77

Hugo Chavez, Presente! htuttle Mar 2013 #90

There appears to be many here 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #91

Economic equality is far more important than any of those things. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #95

Did you mean to hit the sarcasm button? 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #100

That's for you to decide. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #101

shit, we did that EXACT thing right here in the good ol' YOU ESS of AY.. frylock Mar 2013 #104

You need to avail yourself of your right to inform yourself first. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #110

A true man of the people. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #93

I am concerned over the coming influence of outside money taking over the government DainBramaged Mar 2013 #98

You mean "nationalized" right? 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #102

You need to realize Venezuela already HAD nationalized oil, etc. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #112

So you believe he 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #116

Of course not. How odd. Why don't you get a hobby? Stay out of the way of serious people. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #133

Chill 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #142

Go make a positive contribution somewhere... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #180

Amazing how they come out of the woodwork isn't it? DainBramaged Mar 2013 #179

--> This kind of activity... Ghost Dog Mar 2013 #155

Exactly the time and place for this Wikileaked info. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #157

I will neither mourn nor rejoice. Pararescue Mar 2013 #111

As Democrats, we need to be pressing the president WE elected and re-elected. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #120

I agree. Leave them alone. We should not be trading with or supplying any aid to Venezuela. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #167

Not what I meant...and none of those things are the problem. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #169

Alright. I'm OK if the Chavistas win or the opposition wins. Either way is cool with me! Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #173

RIP Chavez kimbutgar Mar 2013 #121

A man of the people. RIP santamargarita Mar 2013 #123

RIP, neither cheering nor mourning BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #125

Have they blamed the US yet? iandhr Mar 2013 #129

More or less - and before he died. 'Infected by outsiders' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #136

Wow. iandhr Mar 2013 #138

they sure did, first they blamed enemies of inoculating him with cancer and then Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #154

President Chavez and I were both born on July 28, 1954. Melinda Mar 2013 #131

I was born one day earlier, same year. Ghost Dog Mar 2013 #151

I think the world was very cold the fall of 1953. :-) Melinda Mar 2013 #161

I would hate to believe that President Obama would authorize efforts to destabilize that country. totodeinhere Mar 2013 #132

Are you aware of what happened with Honduras? Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #135

Because foreign policy - yours and ours too - is controlled by the multinationals. Matilda Mar 2013 #147

RIP Hugo. dotymed Mar 2013 #139

terribly sad news Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #146

I take this news with much trepidation... a la izquierda Mar 2013 #149

This is sad news. He was hero to his people, the less fortunate ones. Rest in Peace, Mr. Chavez. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #150

Never forget the poor he helped..millions and then there was what he said about GW Bush, LOL: Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #162

RIP - nt Ohio Joe Mar 2013 #163

Hugo Chavez SamKnause Mar 2013 #168

regardless what anyone thinks of him now - he will forever be remembered as a hero who championed Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #171

Boo hoo hoo Zorro Mar 2013 #172

Is he still dead? Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #174

RIP I guess. Unlike most here, I was fully neutral to Chavez. Dash87 Mar 2013 #176

1625 "MILITARY TIME" eom littlemissmartypants Mar 2013 #182

The world lost a complicated but good hearted leader tavalon Mar 2013 #183

Interesting posts from those who supported him. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #185

I'm not happy, nor sad davidpdx Mar 2013 #186

Mexico's President Fox refused to recognize the government we installed in April 2002,... Kolesar Mar 2013 #187

He took office in 1999. He was re-elected each time after that by Venezuelans Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #192

He gerryrigged the Venezualan Constitution to stay in power davidpdx Mar 2013 #194

It's a mistranslation. AngryAmish Mar 2013 #189

Hasta la vista, Hugo! I love weed Mar 2013 #193