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happyslug

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62. Since I looks up the catechism, lets see what is the Church's position on Homosexuality.
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:23 PM
May 2013

Read the Sections of the Catechism on Homosexuality listed below Carefully, No mention of "Grave Sin" or "Severe Sin", in any of them. Under Catholic Doctrine, Homosexual acts are NOT Mortal Sins, and thus under Catholic Doctrine not grounds to go to Hell (Homosexual acts are Sins, but only Venial sins).

You have to understand that the Catholic Church has two sets of Sins, Severe Sin (also referred to as "Mortal Sins&quot and Venial Sins (When the Catechism was first published in English it used the term "Sin" for what use to be called "Venial Sins" i.e Sins that do NOT by themselves damns anyone to Hell, the newer version of the Catechism have reverted to using "Venial Sins". The Catechism also used the term "Severe Sin" for what use to be called "Mortal Sins", I have seen both terms used in newer versions of the Catechism).

In the Catechism all sins are Venial UNLESS it is clearly stated it is a Severe or Mortal Sin.

A Mortal Sin has to be somehow a violation of the Ten Commandments, and the only sexual sins mentioned in the Ten Commandments is Adultery (i.e. Fornication is NOT a mortal sin either).

Just a comment that if he is going to be with any "Sodomites" in hell, the "Sodomites" he will be with in Hell will be in Hell for something other then being a Homosexual.


Chastity and homosexuality

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved. (2333)

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. (2347)


http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm#

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Nice to see someone stand by their convictions like that. Crunchy Frog May 2013 #1
If an aspiring mass murderer starts with himself.... sofa king May 2013 #9
It's a Right winger. Pass the Margaret Thatcher death-cake around... Katashi_itto May 2013 #24
But the important thing is... sofa king May 2013 #29
Excellent point~! Katashi_itto May 2013 #51
I'm sorry this guy was so sick he felt the need to do this, Hissyspit May 2013 #42
Sex with the dead is really, really wrong. 24601 May 2013 #69
So to protest what he thinks is a violation of Christian doctrine... brooklynite May 2013 #2
Now THAT'S "Irony"!!! N/T Plucketeer May 2013 #4
Yep, he's going to Hell. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #6
No he isn't. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #33
You're right. NutmegYankee May 2013 #50
For very small values of 'there'. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #54
Where he'll no doubt have to share a room with sodomites Doctor_J May 2013 #53
Since I looks up the catechism, lets see what is the Church's position on Homosexuality. happyslug May 2013 #62
Maybe he judged that it's covered in coveting your neighbor's ass? 24601 May 2013 #70
You may be close, that is how Rape was treated in ancient times happyslug May 2013 #71
The Catholic Church view on Suicide is that it is Murder, but the Church dogma is NOT absolute happyslug May 2013 #61
Yes, sacrificed everything else he stands for . . . caseymoz May 2013 #25
God is facepalming right about now. nt NickB79 May 2013 #68
They even have fucking right wing-nuts in France. SpankMe May 2013 #3
^ Likewise. knixphan May 2013 #34
At least they commit suicide instead of shooting innocent Congress, UU church goers, and so on Doctor_J May 2013 #59
The poor people who witnessed that! tblue May 2013 #72
so his point is They_Live May 2013 #5
'Letter to the Editor' would have been just as effective. louis-t May 2013 #7
Could've joined Westboro Baptist Church tblue May 2013 #73
Not sure what to say. I mean, FFS, really? Never mind that suicide is a sin... idwiyo May 2013 #8
Guess that solves his problem with accepting gays, wonder how the suicide thing works for him liberal N proud May 2013 #10
Here's his blog post---another far-right winger gone. msanthrope May 2013 #11
Wow. That guy was over the top. enlightenment May 2013 #56
My French was a little rusty, but the crazy does translate just fine, doesn't it? nt msanthrope May 2013 #57
Mine's not great either, enlightenment May 2013 #58
Suicide is a mortal sin, fitting since he was mortally stupid, nt geek tragedy May 2013 #12
I simply do NOT care. broadcaster75201 May 2013 #13
How sad to alsame May 2013 #14
Sick. bitchkitty May 2013 #15
Oh well too bad that other people had to see it or clean up the mess but ... Botany May 2013 #16
Starting a trend, I hope. DCKit May 2013 #17
May you be touched by his noodly appendage formercia May 2013 #41
Right-wing historian shoots himself in Notre Dame cathedral Flashmann May 2013 #18
Glad no bystanders were hurt, otherwise sarge43 May 2013 #19
His suicide impacts me about as much as gay marriage should have impacted him. Ian David May 2013 #20
+aleph-null, exponentiate, factorial, etc. nt eppur_se_muova May 2013 #23
quelle dommage... alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #21
at least he had to decency to only take himself out... Blue_Tires May 2013 #22
Too bad he didn't have the decency to do it without the big crowd. AAO May 2013 #35
yeah, but he had to make a big public statement... Blue_Tires May 2013 #38
What is important is that he did not murder any bystanders. Dawson Leery May 2013 #26
You have to give France this. They know how to be activists, whichever side you are on. onehandle May 2013 #27
If only more Right Wingers would dine on a bullet, this world would start to improve. dorksied May 2013 #28
Next ... Wernothelpless May 2013 #31
Likely he was horrified over his own sexual interests, and was killed by his own bigotry. AAO May 2013 #36
Not taking that bet Doctor_J May 2013 #60
That's what I took away from it.... Wernothelpless May 2013 #66
What a dope. nt clarice May 2013 #30
Well, he put his gunny where his mouth is. nt valerief May 2013 #32
And to think he lived in fear of being penetrated by a phallic object. nt Pragdem May 2013 #37
Bwah! valerief May 2013 #65
Could be an entry; greiner3 May 2013 #39
Maybe Pat Robertson will follow his lead! Roland99 May 2013 #40
Godspeed! Tom Ripley May 2013 #43
One less lunatic zealot. Mz Pip May 2013 #44
Suicide is strictly forbidden in the Catholic church KamaAina May 2013 #45
He was clearly disturbed to react in this way to something that would have zero impact on him Politicub May 2013 #46
I'm guessing that hurt a lot less than self-immolation Travelman May 2013 #47
None of OUR wingnuts cared that much about it KinMd May 2013 #48
What a maroon... nomorenomore08 May 2013 #49
God, I hope this catches on Doctor_J May 2013 #52
It's a start! Hassin Bin Sober May 2013 #55
...and thus the world now has one less bigot... truebrit71 May 2013 #63
shot himself dead in front of hundreds of tourists lunasun May 2013 #64
wiki says he was in the Organisation de l'Armée Secrète--the guys who inspired MisterP May 2013 #67
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