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John2

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52. I disagree

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:08 AM

Jul 2013

with you. I think politicians have to adjust to the changing land scape of America and so does Christie.

The Obama Coalition was Blacks,Hispanics,Asians and more Liberal whites. If it was just whites voting, Obama wouldn't have been President. I think he just got 32-39 percent of the white vote, which many of them were probably Liberals. What it shows is America is changing Demographically every Presidential Election cycle and the Republicans know it. That is why they are so serious about immigration laws and voter ID.

They got two choices. To either prevent those people from voting or accomodate their needs. They are still choosing the former approach but that will be a losing cause. They are going against time and natural forces they can't control. It is like people wishing the old south will come back from the ashes of defeat.

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Iowa poll: Hillary Clinton, Chris Christie Tied (41%-41% 2016 Matchup) [View all] big_dog Jul 2013 OP

Polls 2 1/2 years a head of a primary davidpdx Jul 2013 #1

+1000 nt antigop Jul 2013 #24

Watch it, david. You'll be called a 'hater' or something. antigop Jul 2013 #28

It's ok, I've been called much worse on DU davidpdx Jul 2013 #35

this could happen well before 2016 VIDEO yurbud Jul 2013 #79

That was a bit before my time davidpdx Jul 2013 #80

She looked pretty good in 2007, too. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #2

As much as I like Warren too Politicalboi Jul 2013 #7

Sounds good to me. Beacool Jul 2013 #10

I think if Christie runs, he wins. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #3

I disagree John2 Jul 2013 #52

I didn't say "white people" will vote for him, I said Democrats. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #54

That is very bad news for both Clinton and Christie BlueStreak Jul 2013 #4

Never? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #11

Throw out the second term races BlueStreak Jul 2013 #17

Obama won the Iowa Caucases in 2008. DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #29

They picked Obama the first time too. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #31

Still the Iowa caucuses are as predictive as a coin toss BlueStreak Jul 2013 #34

There were a lot of people who did not think Hillary was a shoo-in. juajen Jul 2013 #60

hyperbole ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #66

the straw poll is much like the straw man wordpix Jul 2013 #12

nice handle, you must be the Clinton's biggest fan, right? MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #5

I predict the lowest voter turnout in history if it those two running after the primaries. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #6

Hard to beat '96 when less than half the country turned out... Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #16

And you will predict wrong. Beacool Jul 2013 #40

The people who would be 'excited' about her candidacy are probably the same HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #53

Time to move on........... Beacool Jul 2013 #58

Um, no - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #62

Keep telling yourself that. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #56

I don't have tell myself anything. Beacool Jul 2013 #59

uh oh AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #73

Uh oh, yourself. Beacool Jul 2013 #74

halo slipped a bit? AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #75

Bitter much? Beacool Jul 2013 #76

Your delusion about her popularity goes poof! AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #77

You're such a tiresome kitten. Beacool Jul 2013 #78

YAWN<>>>>>>>>>>>>> Historic NY Jul 2013 #8

Yep. +1000 nt antigop Jul 2013 #25

Crisco can't control his mouth Politicalboi Jul 2013 #9

throw Eliz Warren in the mix and see what happens wordpix Jul 2013 #13

Not much would happen. Beacool Jul 2013 #41

Yawn. Wake me up when there will be candidates. Mass Jul 2013 #14

A poll this far out seems pointless, but it does show she's vulnerable. Drunken Irishman Jul 2013 #15

One of John2 Jul 2013 #51

Any Republican in the primaries is going to be running the teabagger gauntlet Rozlee Jul 2013 #18

Crass, loud blowholes are for reality shows. Not President. onehandle Jul 2013 #19

Chris Christie is just another ALEC republican with a democratic legislature hollysmom Jul 2013 #20

How about in NJ? quakerboy Jul 2013 #21

Remember Robbins Jul 2013 #22

Hillary is definitely being pushed hard by someone. Ads for her are popping up on several websites. freshwest Jul 2013 #23

If its Rand Paul, the Dem nominee can campaign from his/her couch. 7962 Jul 2013 #32

I hope you're right, but Aqua Buddha and heads stomping didn't prevent him being elected... freshwest Jul 2013 #36

Oh, he'll appeal to some, but not enough. And if money mattered most, 7962 Jul 2013 #49

I sure hope so. What is the appeal of Christie though? I've heard people at DU talkiing about him. freshwest Jul 2013 #50

I think the appeal IS his temper, 7962 Jul 2013 #63

CPAC? Beacool Jul 2013 #42

IDK, but they picked Rand this year. And he's getting more attention than Daddy ever did. freshwest Jul 2013 #46

War Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #57

she's a perfect corporate candidate. See link... antigop Jul 2013 #68

Dem primary voters in IA will vote for Hillary. Rep primary voters in IA will not vote for Christie. LonePirate Jul 2013 #26

I say: None of the above, including Iowa. n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #27

match heaven05 Jul 2013 #30

One silver lining DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #33

A war criminal?????????? Beacool Jul 2013 #43

What does it take to be considered a war criminal cpwm17 Jul 2013 #67

Oh, please............ Beacool Jul 2013 #70

Oh we're listening to Politico again? Fearless Jul 2013 #37

polls are beyond useless now ButterflyBlood Jul 2013 #38

Wonder how a democrat Spirochete Jul 2013 #39

Christie is my governor and he's a jerk. Beacool Jul 2013 #44

Keep in mind DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #45

Thankfully, neither will win a primary. David__77 Jul 2013 #47

At this time who would beat either of them? Godhumor Jul 2013 #71

Any number of people, in both parties. David__77 Jul 2013 #72

I think Chris Christie would be their strongest candidate - but I don't think the base of the party Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #48

With GOP's war on women going on, Hillary's a shoe in coldmountain Jul 2013 #55

So, once again only Corporatist candidates need apply? NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #61

The tea party has billionaire backing. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #64

Blah, blah, blah. BlueStater Jul 2013 #65

Its nonsense jzodda Jul 2013 #69

2.5 years away, don't even know if either of them are running, and 18% undecided? Arkana Jul 2013 #81

How much more meaningless can a poll get? fujiyama Jul 2013 #82