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Turborama

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Mon Sep 16, 2013, 02:33 PM Sep 2013

'War crime': U.N. finds sarin used in Syria chemical weapons attack [View all]

Source: CNN

By Josh Levs and Holly Yan

September 16, 2013 -- Updated 17:42 GMT

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: It's the biggest confirmed use of chemical arms since in Iraq in 1988, Ban Ki-moon says
NEW: President Obama says the U.S.-Russia could deal could end the threat

(CNN) -- The United Nations team investigating a chemical weapons attack last month in Syria has found that sarin was used.

"In particular, the environmental, chemical and medical samples we have collected provide clear and convincing evidence that surface-to-surface rockets containing the nerve agent sarin were used in Ein Tarma, Moadamiyah and Amalaka in the Ghouta area of Damascus," a 38-page report says.

Chemical weapons "were used on a relatively large scale," U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in a briefing to the U.N. Security Council.

It's "the most significant confirmed use of chemical weapons against civilians since Saddam Hussein used them in Halabja in 1988," Ban said.

The U.N. mission "adhered to the most stringent protocols available for such an investigation, including to ensure the chain of custody for all samples," Ban added.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/16/politics/syria-civil-war/



New York, 16 September 2013 - Secretary-General's remarks to the Security Council on the report of the United Nations Missions to Investigate Allegations of the Use of Chemical Weapons on the incident that occurred on 21 August 2013 in the Ghouta area of Damascus:

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Let me turn now to the handling and analysis of the materials that were collected by the Mission.

The samples were sent for analysis to four laboratories designated by the OPCW. The Mission’s factual findings are as follows.

(a)The environmental and biomedical samples demonstrate the widespread nature of the attacks. Eighty-five per cent of the blood samples tested positive for sarin. Biomedical samples were taken from 34 of the 36 patients selected by the Mission who had signs of poisoning. Almost all tested positive for exposure to sarin.

(b)These results were corroborated by the clinical assessments, which documented symptoms and signs consistent with nerve agent exposure. A number of affected patients were diagnosed with intoxification by an organophosphorous compound, and clearly showed symptoms associated with sarin, including loss of consciousness, shortness of breath, blurred vision, eye inflammation, vomiting and seizures.

(c)A majority of the environmental samples confirmed the use of sarin. The samples were taken from impact sites and surrounding areas – locations where survivors were also found to have been affected by sarin.

(d)The team was also able to examine impacted and exploded surface-to-surface rockets that are capable of carrying a chemical payload. These were carefully measured, photographed and sampled. A majority of the rockets or rocket fragments recovered were found to be carrying sarin.

On the basis of its analysis, the Mission concluded that it – and I quote – “collected clear and convincing evidence that surface-to-surface rockets containing the nerve agent sarin were used in the Ein Tarma, Moadamiyah and Zalmalka in the Ghouta area of Damascus.”

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The UN Commission of Inquiry has reported that Government and pro-government forces have committed murder, enforced disappearances, extrajudicial executions, rape and torture against civilians. It has also reported that anti-government armed groups have committed murder, executions, torture and hostage-taking. There has been indiscriminate shelling of civilian neighbourhoods by all sides. Yet arms continue to flow to the country and the region.

As action on chemical weapons moves ahead, the international community, including the United Nations, should also not be blind to the war crimes and crimes against humanity being committed with conventional weapons. There must be no impunity for these violations, either.

The humanitarian situation is desperate. Food supplies are dangerously low in some places. We lack access to many people in need. People are living under siege. Families face intolerable choices between the risk of remaining in place and the risk of taking flight. Communities that once lived in relative harmony are now torn with sectarian tension. One third of the country’s people have fled their homes -- the largest flows of refugees and internally displaced persons in many years, causing instability across the region.

We need to do everything we can to bring the parties to the negotiating table. This is the only path to a durable solution. I stand ready to convene the International Conference on Syria in Geneva as soon as possible. I look forward to meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov and Secretary Kerry on 28 September. I hope we will be able to set a date for the conference at that time. I also hope that this Council will provide full support to the efforts of Joint Special Representative Lakhdar Brahimi to prepare the ground for its launch.

This is the most significant confirmed use of chemical weapons against civilians since Saddam Hussein used them in Halabja in 1988. The international community has pledged to prevent any such horror from recurring, yet it has happened again.

This is a matter that truly affects international peace and security. After two-and-a-half years of tragedy, now is the moment for the Security Council to uphold its political and moral responsibilities and demonstrate the political will to move forward in a decisive manner.

My hope is that this incident will serve as a wake-up call for more determined efforts to resolve the conflict and end the unbearable suffering of the Syrian people.

Thank you, Mr. President.

His full statement: http://www.un.org/sg/statements/index.asp?nid=7083


The report can be downloaded from the UN here (it's a badly scanned copy & isn't easy to read): http://www.un.org/disarmament/content/slideshow/Secretary_General_Report_of_CW_Investigation.pdf

Or an easier to read version is here (hat tip to The Magistrate): http://www.scribd.com/doc/168606795/U-N-Report-on-Chemical-Attack-in-Syria
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350 liters of high quality Sarin. joshcryer Sep 2013 #1
Very interesting site Turborama Sep 2013 #2
That amount appears about right. The rest of your assertions are not well established. leveymg Sep 2013 #35
Ah, yes, the 140mm is Russia, the 330mm is unlikely to be rebels. joshcryer Sep 2013 #56
Note a couple things: the report makes no mention of sarin quality - that's a claim made by the UK leveymg Sep 2013 #57
Moses' latest conclusion is that it's not an opposition controlled weapon. joshcryer Sep 2013 #58
Moses isn't Moses, and he's changed his tune since June. He's not really an expert, and the experts leveymg Sep 2013 #59
I think Moses was winging it. joshcryer Sep 2013 #61
I think he still is. He's just playing to a wider audience now, leveymg Sep 2013 #66
even I noticed the rockets shot from LG. trailers had 'canister' tops ~ the size of 30 gal aquarium Sunlei Sep 2013 #70
A typical mid-size delivery truck is fine for transporting 3-4 of these things. leveymg Sep 2013 #72
you have very good points. I hope Assad has control over what he is supposed to turn over. Sunlei Sep 2013 #73
Assad clearly does not have a monopoly on either these rockets or poisonous chemicals leveymg Sep 2013 #74
that's a pick-up truck. The huge rocket launchers looked like semi trailers pulled by large trucks. Sunlei Sep 2013 #75
The al-Qaeda PU truck rockets are about 4 feet long. The ones used on 8/21 are 6'6" leveymg Sep 2013 #76
that is an excellent report and this link inside was also well detailed. Sunlei Sep 2013 #49
and now for the 'big surprise' azurnoir Sep 2013 #3
It falls under Chapter 6 with a "further measures" recommendation for Chapter 7. joshcryer Sep 2013 #5
hmmm someone better tell Russia that they have "no choice" azurnoir Sep 2013 #6
Russia is commenting on a resolution it hasn't read. joshcryer Sep 2013 #9
if you actually read the article you'll find that azurnoir Sep 2013 #15
Russia was commenting on a US statement. joshcryer Sep 2013 #55
are you confused? azurnoir Sep 2013 #60
Right, but Russia doesn't know what the US has written. joshcryer Sep 2013 #62
If it were to go that far Russia would veto any military intervention per azurnoir Sep 2013 #63
The US isn't going to include military intervention. joshcryer Sep 2013 #65
Most likely? Assad will hand the weapons over to Russia still because as long as that happens cstanleytech Sep 2013 #7
I would think the question would then be azurnoir Sep 2013 #14
I think the US would. Its not a perfect solution as those who used them wont be put on trial cstanleytech Sep 2013 #54
Kerry himself has says that there is no trigger karynnj Sep 2013 #52
Kerry says now did he get that from Kissinger or Reagan the former he takes advice from azurnoir Sep 2013 #53
I can't parse your confused subject line karynnj Sep 2013 #64
So what - USA promoted chemical weapons before, then got Saddam hung for it. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #4
Are you seriously saying "So what" (sic) Turborama Sep 2013 #8
Not at all . . . ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #26
"So what" Daniel537 Sep 2013 #10
How you doing arguing with the strawmen? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #28
I have zero tolerance for fools whose first response to a report of mass murder is Daniel537 Sep 2013 #33
This report is a political justification for war in today's political environment NoOneMan Sep 2013 #37
Try to find one of my posts saying mass murder is ok ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #31
Do you care about crimes against humanity geek tragedy Sep 2013 #11
You are not paying attention ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #19
Have you ever answered 'so what' to a report geek tragedy Sep 2013 #22
No - not that I recall. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #25
If one was being use to justify bombings and attrocities against the American people I would. NoOneMan Sep 2013 #29
I find the whole 'moral imperative' stance hypocritical....otoh snappyturtle Sep 2013 #16
" it was a heinous act that occurred in Syria." - yes it certainly was ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #17
Trust me I agree with you as unpopular as that obviously is. snappyturtle Sep 2013 #18
Agreeing with me is not as unpopular as one might think. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #24
I don't think some people see this as "another" war NoOneMan Sep 2013 #32
Here Is A Good Copy Of The Whole Report, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #12
Thanks a lot! Turborama Sep 2013 #13
This should encourage Assad to quit what using military tactics instead of political ones in Syria. freshwest Sep 2013 #21
Thank you the report clarified some points n/t azurnoir Sep 2013 #20
Thank you for the link Hydra Sep 2013 #51
Seems that some Crow Eating is in order! nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #23
I don't think any crow should be eaten. John2 Sep 2013 #27
So you reject the report as well as rejecting the geek tragedy Sep 2013 #30
Here is what I think about Syria giving up their chemical weapons.... NoOneMan Sep 2013 #34
Huh? Syria's regime has massacred tens of thousands geek tragedy Sep 2013 #36
Not as cool ones as the US uses though NoOneMan Sep 2013 #38
The UN is taking their illegal chemical arms. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #39
I just think they should be able to trade them in. Really, I have doubts of their cost efficiency NoOneMan Sep 2013 #41
That is nonsensical gibberish. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #44
This entire arbitrary debate about what is a moral way to massacre people is NoOneMan Sep 2013 #45
No, rational or decent human being John2 Sep 2013 #46
You're on record as saying the Assad regime geek tragedy Sep 2013 #47
Do you feel the same about Iran? maddezmom Sep 2013 #68
Oh, John2 Sep 2013 #43
Most, but I'm sure you will say otherwise. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #48
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #40
So, you think Obama is as scary as the Nazis were geek tragedy Sep 2013 #42
I agree that it could be a huge mistake. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #50
What's Ban Ki Moon coming from South Korea got to do with anything? n/t Turborama Sep 2013 #67
BTW, the head of the UN's investigative mission is not a Sunni Muslim Turborama Sep 2013 #69
The US should consider providing more food and medical aid to Syria through the UN. David__77 Sep 2013 #71
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