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In reply to the discussion: Protests continue after Venezuelan diplomatic win [View all]Judi Lynn
(164,049 posts)294. Yeah, you betcha! Attadactyl!
Information we all knew long before even this article was written, reposted in order to help orient the unaware:
Weekend Edition June 9-11, 2007
Who's Pulling the Strings?
Behind Venezuelas "Student Rebellion"
by GEORGE CICCARIELLO-MAHER
Caracas.
~snip~
Step One: Dont Be Seen
Firstly, opposition parties made a clear decision to stay out of the spotlight, emphasizing the "independent" and "spontaneous" nature of the student protests. Beyond anything else, this gesture proves the degree to which the opposition has been discredited, garnering a reverse Midas touch through years of poor decisionmaking and supporting coups. From the beginning, the government was arguing that opposition politicians were behind the student mobilizations, and so when government-run channel 8 covered one of the early student demonstrations in Plaza Brion in Chacaito, the headline read "opposition demonstration disguised as a student demonstration."
This claim was perhaps justified by the appearance at the demonstration of Leopoldo López, mayor of opposition stronghold Chacao, formerly of far-right party Primero Justicia, which he more recently abandoned in favor of Manuel Rosales nominally social democratic Un Nuevo Tiempo. Opposition news channel Globovisión countered with the thoroughly unconvincing claim that López, 36 years old and an established politician, was a "youth leader." López himself wouldnt help the situation when at a press conference he "accidentally" called for the students to employ "non-peaceful" tactics (he later claimed that he had meant to call for "non-violent" forms of protest).
That the "student leaders" are tied to the opposition is far from controversial: for example, spokesperson Yon Goicochea is a member of Primero Justicia and the aptly-named Stalin González belonged until recently to the strangest of opposition organizations, Bandera Roja. BR is a nominally Marxist-Leninist group which made the unlikely transition from a respectable guerrilla organization to the attack dogs of the far right, claiming to use the opposition as a vehicle to topple the fake communism of Chávez and institute a true dictatorship of the proletariat. But González recently revealed the extent of his opportunism by joining Rosales and Un Nuevo Tiempo. But the contours of the oppositions hands-off strategy wouldnt be fully clear until the revelation of a taped phone conversation in which Un Nuevo Tiempo leader Alfonso Marquina spoke of the need to remain in the background, but to pull the strings regardless: "Lets mobilize all the kids We have a strategy as an organization Lets mobilize all the kids, because you know {UCV student leader} Stalin {González} is our vice president here in Caracas Lets mobilize the kids from the Catholic {University}Weve decided that the politicians wont intervene, that well leave it to the kids in their natural environment. Well give them support, stick them in trucks If I go out there, theyll say its the politicians that are calling the kids out."
"The only thing that can save us in this situation is if something extraordinary happens," replies Elías, an advisor to RCTV head Marcel Granier, on the leaked tape. Its comments like this that lead the Vice President of the National Assembly Desiree Santos to argue that the political opposition to Chávez was "looking for a death" among the students, to "repeat the actions of 2002" in which pre-meditated deaths were inserted into a pre-fabricated media strategy to overthrow Chávez.
Santos continues: "We want to denounce today a campaign which intends to convince the country that these student protests are spontaneous, civil, peaceful, and democratic, but behind them there lies an entire conspiratorial apparatus. They are using these kids as cannon fodder " It was little surprise, then, that when a student was indeed killed (but under circumstances unrelated to the protests), the opposition press immediately ran with the story, only later rectifying their erroneous reports that she had been shot by police. This convenient misreporting even led to the story reaching the pages of Spains El País.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/06/09/behind-venezuela-s-quot-student-rebellion-quot/
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So you don't think they are protesting massive shortages and runaway inflation? n/t
totodeinhere
Mar 2014
#11
I'm not sure about that. There are countries in Latin America with governments that are to
totodeinhere
Mar 2014
#237
Typical. A place votes against U.S. Type Capitalism so we cut off their supplies...
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#2
Used to be a time when you could pay for something that was one Euro with one Dollar and get change.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#23
Inflation is a comparative statistic. In the 90's other Lat Am countries had even more inflation.
ChangoLoa
Mar 2014
#159
It's not THAT. The aim of the US to make sure Socialism NEVER has a success story.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#47
So we hate Socialism based on what side of a ocean it is on? That's your position? n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#241
Right after you learn some economic theories so you'll understand where Venz. problems are. n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#280
Did you know under some communist takeovers that all land deeds and contracts are null and void?
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#208
So, you approve of the Venezuelan govt not paying their bills and stealing the equipment
smokey775
Mar 2014
#209
Based on the current situation, I'd say that Chavez did more than enough...
S_B_Jackson
Mar 2014
#226
Have never seen these stats represented visually. Hard to ignore! Thanks. n/t
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#230
I know, wanting to get paid and to get their equip. back....the nerve!! lol n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#254
Oh sure, the oil companies all pulled out after that article came out.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#265
Eegadds!!! They aren't pulling it ALL out at once!!! Proof they're total FAILURES!!!
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#285
"If you aim to communicate with people, stop harassing them." LOL! REALLY!?!?
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#243
Right...you think oil services companies in Houston care about "propping up" or making money? n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#251
It's such a pleasure when a factual article makes it through the wall of crap.
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#124
"The U.S. wants Venezuelan oil, just as with Iraq.' Just where do you think they send their oil now?
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#283
Makes it hilarious to see things like McCain at Sturgis hanging around with bikers.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#298
No, they sell all the oil they can but still don't have enough hard currency left over. n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#95
Uh huh, and according to CPAC Obama sucks too. I question the reporting.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#114
I blame the Capitalists who have decided to smash this experiment in Socialism.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#58
Tell you what, have them elect Dick Cheney. I'm sure everything will work out just fine for them....
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#77
Did they want their money to be useless? probably not but it was none-the-less. n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#165
It was a decision by the West to refuse to accept their economic model....
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#167
It's an economic system, not political and has proved to be much superior..
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#198
No, for the masses. the # of people who live on under a dollar a day drops every year.
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#289
A lot of it in permafrost. On the bright side it's a great place if you're looking for Mammoths.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#255
Fine. Keep up with the corporate media narrative. You'll sleep soundly.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#66
Frankly, I don't see where all the hate for this guy came from except from the manner of reporting.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#78
Don't you know socialism leads to misery? Just look at,...uh,...Venezuela.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#84
Well the problem here is you can't argue this subject with people who have a...
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#141
Hmm.. let's see... Do you have more experience with Russia, Germany, Japan, Venez., Ukraine? nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#268
Hmm... I was born abroad, my grandparents are from other countries, I lived in still 2 other
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#278
Hmm... I don't blame the current administration for the disasters which began in the 1980s
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#293
Give it up. I posted a link to Democracy Now where they expose our funding the Right Wing.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#113
When you didn't take the time to read the article with the photo, you showed DU'ers
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#173
And here YA go, Zorro! Taken right from the Caracas Chronicles, an anti-Chavez/Maduro site!
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#184
As is publicly displayed, the message board welcomes Democrats, progressives, liberals, etc.
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#174
Her definition seems to be" "anybody who has a different opinion then me". n/t
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#189
Since the OAS turned out to be a good thing for VN, will they reinstate relations with Panama? nt
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#6
"In spite of all this, the average Venezuelan is far better off than just a few years ago."
EX500rider
Mar 2014
#36
It's the govts. responsibility to assure that monetary policies are in place
smokey775
Mar 2014
#158
Yeah,they just gave up and went away...... Reality check badly needed!!!!!!
Theyletmeeatcake2
Mar 2014
#131
Also as if the USA has never done this before....I laughed when Kerry criticised Russia..:)
Theyletmeeatcake2
Mar 2014
#132
Washington sponsors the leaders of the RW Opposition, and then has the unmitigated gall to
Zorra
Mar 2014
#156
"Pots-and-pans protests" were used by the CIA to help bring down Allende in '73.
Ken Burch
Mar 2014
#212
Offering to engage in open public dialogue in daylight with fascists is often the most effective
Zorra
Mar 2014
#238
Yes! It happened also years ago when these "protesters'" older brothers & sisters
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#296