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Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
13. Time for the U.S. to exit this hell hole......
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jul 2014

I want to stop any U.S. financial or any other type of support (including intelligence sharing) to both sides. If they want to kill one another then so be it. If they want to find a way to peacefully co-exist I am all for it.

But the time has come for the U.S. to walk away. This is not our fight. We are not, or should not be Israel's paymaster. They have resources to defend themselves. They should use them. And when they run out of bullets they should finance or find other means of defending themselves.

The Palestinians have an equal right to a homeland. The west felt sorry for the Jews after the holocaust and agreed to give them a homeland which pushed Palestinians off of land they had been farming or tending for hundreds of years. This is not unlike the U.S. treatment of the native peoples.

I understand the frustration of both sides. But our involvement isn't going to solve this. The two sides should be left alone to kill one another off (not my preferred solution) or to resolve their differences.

I do not want any more of my tax money going to fund Israel's killing of Palestinians or aid that ends up in the hands of Hamas militants. I want that money going to feed and care for our poor and our veterans, rebuild our highways and bridges, provide health care for our people, invest in education, etc.

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Probably the other 30% are simply adult males Ash_F Jul 2014 #1
I've been told again and again that Israel is exercising admirable restraint Orrex Jul 2014 #2
Hard to answer without violating ballyhoo Jul 2014 #3
The world has ignored the slaughter in Syria for years hack89 Jul 2014 #5
Syria has been extensively sanctioned Ash_F Jul 2014 #8
For some reason, not clear even to me, I ballyhoo Jul 2014 #10
Syria has been admonished and sanctioned by the US and EU. Ash_F Jul 2014 #15
Yes, sir. Death of little children is much more important ballyhoo Jul 2014 #17
So you want a war with both Israel and Syria? Ash_F Jul 2014 #26
My comment was well thought out deep beliefs. I ballyhoo Jul 2014 #31
I think you would be surprised at the effects international pressure can have on Israeli policy. Ash_F Jul 2014 #34
Not at all. I have purposely stayed away from ballyhoo Jul 2014 #40
I wonder how many Israeli children have died from rocket's being lobbed at them? nt William769 Jul 2014 #4
Give Hamas what they want and you will get your wish of a more "fair" fight. nt hack89 Jul 2014 #6
according to B'tselem since 9/2000-5/31/14 azurnoir Jul 2014 #11
127 Israeli minors have died & the Iron dome knocks out 87% of Hamas missiles. Sunlei Jul 2014 #50
if you look at the stats you'll find azurnoir Jul 2014 #52
yes, I understand Sunlei Jul 2014 #54
the greastest portion of those were during Intifada2 azurnoir Jul 2014 #58
guess they're lucky russia, china, iran? doesn't sell hamas the targeting software. Sunlei Jul 2014 #59
Over a ten to one ratio... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #81
so now that you know, William reddread Jul 2014 #18
Stop the rockets and agree to the cease fire then all is good to sit and figure this out. William769 Jul 2014 #21
11 to 1 death ratio reddread Jul 2014 #22
They had a chance at a cease fire. William769 Jul 2014 #23
Exactly opposite in this case. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #24
seems like clearly flawed reasoning. do you think they are crazy? reddread Jul 2014 #25
Your numbers are meaningless. William769 Jul 2014 #28
1 to 11, 11 to 1 reddread Jul 2014 #30
are you opining that the Hamas refusal of a cease fire gives Israel carte blanche? azurnoir Jul 2014 #66
no need to participate in a discussion on a discussion board? reddread Jul 2014 #75
Ah, the voice of peaceful (single-issue) opinion ... Nihil Jul 2014 #93
Only those who have been defending a small plot ballyhoo Jul 2014 #29
That is true. None of us can know the level of hopelessness and desperation Chemisse Jul 2014 #91
You mean those like the Palestinians? FarrenH Jul 2014 #97
Yes ballyhoo Jul 2014 #99
you do realize it was announced that Hamas had rejected the cease fire azurnoir Jul 2014 #37
None. The Stranger Jul 2014 #56
None. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #87
No. They were just "knocking on the roof" of a sandcastle alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #7
how many missiles did Rachel Corrie fire at them? How many did these journalists fire at them? reddread Jul 2014 #9
The terror org Hamas is wholly responsible for those deaths, IronGate Jul 2014 #12
Negative. Had they accepted the cease fire they would ballyhoo Jul 2014 #14
Are you saying that those 4 people would have been killed even if the terror org Hamas IronGate Jul 2014 #16
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #19
"So called"? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #43
Ha! Levin loves to hear the sound of his own voice. To me, he's worse than rush 7962 Jul 2014 #83
Quite possibly... I am saying the position of ballyhoo Jul 2014 #20
If you killed my kids on the beach..... ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #46
It's not hard to understand such a response. Maedhros Jul 2014 #74
Hamas, a group fueld by Israel to counter Arafat's PA Larkspur Jul 2014 #73
Time for the U.S. to exit this hell hole...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #13
there is no cause and effect link between hamas rockets and israelis murdering kids on a beach nt msongs Jul 2014 #27
nothing rational anyway n/t reddread Jul 2014 #32
Another good point. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #33
The Russians searching a diversion for their crimes in Chechenia and Ukraine fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #35
Speaking of diversions... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #38
Hamas head to make diplomatic trip to Moscow fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #41
hate much? reddread Jul 2014 #70
+1 reddread Jul 2014 #69
Its horrible when anyone is killed. Israel had 200 target strikes today Sunlei Jul 2014 #36
The Iron Dome? ....... ballyhoo Jul 2014 #45
It works, I have friends who live there. Sunlei Jul 2014 #51
I have relatives who live there. It ballyhoo Jul 2014 #53
The root cause of this conflict must be resolved or Israel and Palestine will never know peace. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #39
Hamas head to make diplomatic trip to Moscow http://toi.sr/T5QUma via @timesofisrael fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #42
Who can blame them? I would do the same thing. arcane1 Jul 2014 #55
But for sure now the Palestinians are manipulate for fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #61
You don't know that. What if Putin sends ballyhoo Jul 2014 #63
For sure He does, and he does also for the Hamas fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #64
He puts fear in Israel, who then goes to the ballyhoo Jul 2014 #65
NO, you don't got it, this have nothing to do with Obama, who his one fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #67
You mean "Katrina"? ballyhoo Jul 2014 #68
where else are they going to turn, Washington? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #60
I've said this elsewhere, will repeat here: Israelis will succeed closeupready Jul 2014 #44
No, they won't-- Just as Iraq was the US's Parthia, ballyhoo Jul 2014 #47
We'll see. Either way, I think we agree, Palestinians will forget closeupready Jul 2014 #48
Ah, I understand now...Not the Twilight Zone... ballyhoo Jul 2014 #49
Yes. I thought that was irony Ghost Dog Jul 2014 #62
They did? another_liberal Jul 2014 #72
Of course not. That's my (obtuse) point - they will not forget. closeupready Jul 2014 #76
Exactly spot on. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #78
I'm glad someone thinks that is possible. n/t amandabeech Jul 2014 #86
4 Palestinian kids died today.... Xolodno Jul 2014 #57
The Guardian has this story as well. another_liberal Jul 2014 #71
pretty sure thats called war crimes reddread Jul 2014 #77
Is intentionally targeting and killing fleeing civilians a war crime? another_liberal Jul 2014 #79
I don't think Israel is under The Hague either. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #80
doesnt change much reddread Jul 2014 #82
Israel is not the United States . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #84
Warrants against American leaders have kept them from travelling to some developed countries FarrenH Jul 2014 #98
Is that not what Hamas does? tjl148 Jul 2014 #89
Are you saying Israel is justified . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #92
No, tjl148 Jul 2014 #94
You do realize, don't you . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #95
And... tjl148 Jul 2014 #96
This is just so sad. Those poor children. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #85
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #88
Israeli terrorists blow up four kids Ichingcarpenter Jul 2014 #90
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