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In reply to the discussion: UPDATED: Clinton: It 'Had To Be' Ukraine Separatists Who Shot Down The Plane [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)48. I make it a gender thing because no one would say a word if John Kerry or
Henry Kissinger said the same exact words. When it comes to Clinton, though, the knives are out.
And gee, I guess she may well have been speaking as a consequence of the courtesy briefings that former POTUS's/SECSTATES/SECDEFS and other key cabinet officials get when the shit hits the fan somewhere.
But hey, it's just so easy to take digs at "that woman." I see it here incessantly.
I point it out when I see it.
If you don't like that, too bad.
Jetliner Explodes Over Ukraine; Struck by Missile, Officials Say
GRABOVO, Ukraine A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 298 people aboard exploded, crashed and burned on a flowered wheat field Thursday in a part of eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russia separatists, blown out of the sky at 33,000 feet by what Ukrainian and American officials described as a Russian-made antiaircraft missile.
Ukraine accused the separatists of carrying out what it called a terrorist attack. American intelligence and military officials said the plane had been destroyed by a Russian SA-series missile, based on surveillance satellite data that showed the final trajectory and impact of the missile but not its point of origin.
There were strong indications that those responsible may have errantly downed what they had thought was a military aircraft only to discover, to their shock, that they had struck a civilian airliner. Everyone aboard was killed, their corpses littered among wreckage that smoldered late into the summer night....Adding to Ukrainian and Western suspicions that pro-Russia separatists were culpable, Ukraines intelligence agency, the State Security Service, known as the S.B.U., released audio from what it said were intercepted phone calls between separatist rebels and Russian military intelligence officers on Thursday. In the audio, the separatists appeared to acknowledge shooting down a civilian plane.
The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry sent reporters a link to the edited audio of the calls, with English subtitles, posted on YouTube by the S.B.U.
According to a translation of the Russian audio by the English-language Kyiv Post, the recording begins with a separatist commander, identified as Igor Bezler, telling a Russian military intelligence official, We have just shot down a plane.....
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UPDATED: Clinton: It 'Had To Be' Ukraine Separatists Who Shot Down The Plane [View all]
DonViejo
Jul 2014
OP
That sounds like she's stupid -- like something Palin would say if she'd been totally flummoxed.
MADem
Jul 2014
#27
Well, then you can cut your cable, because that's all we get on those news shows. Save a bundle! nt
MADem
Jul 2014
#30
Why must you make this a gender thing. "it only gets Extra Special Scrutiny when it is a woman,
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#40
Not true - every sentence Kerry has said is parsed for "gaffes" - even though he
karynnj
Jul 2014
#61
I like JK---I've met him, he's no where near as pompous as he comes across on TV.
MADem
Jul 2014
#86
"no one would say a word if John Kerry or Henry Kissinger said the same exact words."
rhett o rick
Jul 2014
#69
Everything Clinton said sounded like it came out of a briefing--which it probably did. nt
MADem
Jul 2014
#85
Everyone is making that comparison because it's an apt one to make--that "historical similarity"
MADem
Jul 2014
#93
Thank you for those quotes from people who see the comparison in that respect between
Cha
Jul 2014
#94
Quite so.. no, it doesn't mean he's like hitler in any other respects. He just clamps down
Cha
Jul 2014
#96
Appalling to think that she once served as the nation's top diplomat. n/t
RufusTFirefly
Jul 2014
#13
Turns out everything she said has been verified by reports in the New York Times.
MADem
Jul 2014
#49
"Older yet still potent soviet military equipment has proliferated significantly."
nomorenomore08
Jul 2014
#5
Accident? It was a surface to air missile launcher, NOT shoulder fired, and the only "accident"
MADem
Jul 2014
#51
I can hear them now "Oh, I'm just a silly old butterfingers!!! Don't mind me!!!!!"
MADem
Jul 2014
#97
Would be nice; not goin to get it with Hillary, who never stops beating the war drums.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2014
#38
Seriously? You Are Suggesting Hillary Clinton Was Involved In Shooting Down This Plane?
Corey_Baker08
Jul 2014
#82
It doesn't matter who shot it down - Hair Trigger McCain wants to start a war over it.
liberal N proud
Jul 2014
#54
Putin is responsible for his military, their actions and their position on Ukraines border.
Sunlei
Jul 2014
#63