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newthinking

(3,982 posts)
27. No, I abhor the innacurate angry narrative that avoids the complexity
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 03:39 AM
Dec 2014

of events and misrepresents the situation.

You have attached yourself to the lie that what happened in Kiev was not an overthrow by an extreme and unrepresentative group. So I can also ask a similar rhetorical question: You mean you support the overthrow of democratic governments?

I have detailed the history of this, which goes much farther back then last year. This is the SECOND attempt by outside forces to push a minority into power (the first being the Orange Revolution, which was led by a man heavily involved with US Right wing institutions, and in fact was married to a US citizen neo-con who had worked under Cheney and in right wing think tanks in the US (Ever heart of the far right "Heritage Foundation"? A lot of people are unaware they are defending actions of the groups they can't stand).


[font size="3"]To understand how we got to where we are now: You must understand that this effort has been ongoing since at least the beginning of the new century.[/font]
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The first attempt at affecting "Regime Change" was the orchestration, mostly by neo-cons, of the "Orange Revolution".

The Wests choice in 2004? A man by the name of Victor Yuschenko.


His wife? An American Citizen and Far Right Republican who had worked for the Reagan Administration, had been director at a NeoCon think tank (New Atlantic Initiative) (Victor also worked with this group) and also worked for the far right think tank the Heritage Foundation. "Katherine Chumachenko Yushenko worked in the White House Public Liaison Office where she conducted outreach to various right-wing and anti-communist exile groups in the United States.



A very good summary from a post on an older version of DU Tinoire
There are links on the original page:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2870381


Ukraine, Yushchenko, his wife (Bush employee), the US and Soros

"After hearing that the NED had pumped $65 million dollars into this election and that his wife was an American citizen, I thought I'd research this a little. I don't know this handsome US-backed Yushchenko but I'm suspecting that he is going to dismantle the Ukraine Boris-Yeltsin style and sell if off to US & European corporate interests. Germany, France and the US already have their deals in place with him over pipelines, utility companies and national resources.

Just thought I'd throw this information out there so that people can see how these things are done and how the media cooperates into presenting these changes as "spontaneous" changes that the US had nothing to do with.

So here we go. First some of the "meddling" that the media hasn't covered and then in my second post, Yushchenko's "dedicated conservative" US State Department wife.

$61 million for the Ukraine elections to back Yushchenko and $100,000 to the Tsunami victims. Just shameful.
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Bush Adminstration Spent $65 Million to Help Opposition in Ukraine

December 10, 2004

By: Matt Kelley
Associated Press

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WASHINGTON - The Bush administration has spent more than $65 million in the past two years to aid political organizations in Ukraine, paying to bring opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko to meet U.S. leaders and helping to underwrite exit polls indicating he won last month's disputed runoff election.

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But officials acknowledge some of the money helped train groups and individuals opposed to the Russian-backed government candidate — people who now call themselves part of the Orange revolution.

For example, one group that got grants through U.S.-funded foundations is the Center for Political and Legal Reforms, whose Web site has a link to Yushchenko's home page under the heading "partners." Another project funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development brought a Center for Political and Legal Reforms official to Washington last year for a three-week training session on political advocacy.

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The four foundations involved included three funded by the U.S. government: The National Endowment for Democracy, which gets its money directly from Congress; the Eurasia Foundation, which gets money from the State Department, and the Renaissance Foundation, part of a network of charities funded by billionaire George Soros that gets money from the State Department. Other countries involved included Great Britain, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Canada, Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

Grants from groups funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development also went to the International Center for Policy Studies, a think tank that includes Yushchenko on its supervisory board. The board also includes several current or former advisers to Kuchma, however.

IRI, Craner's Republican-backed group, used U.S. money to help Yushchenko arrange meetings with Vice President Dick Cheney , Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage and GOP leaders in Congress in February 2003.

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the U.S. government, through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), granted millions of dollars to the Poland-America-Ukraine Cooperation Initiative (PAUCI), which is administered by the U.S.-based Freedom House. (note: Very hawkish / Dan Quayle is one of their trustees / other names just as disturbing: http://www.freedomhouse.org/aboutfh/bod.htm )

PAUCI then sent U.S. government funds to numerous Ukrainian non-governmental organizations (NGOs). This would be bad enough and would in itself constitute meddling in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation. But, what is worse is that many of these grantee organizations in Ukraine are blatantly in favor of presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko.

Consider the Ukrainian NGO International Center for Policy Studies. It is an organization funded by the U.S. government through PAUCI. On its Web site, we discover that this NGO was founded by George Soros' Open Society Institute. And further on we can see that Viktor Yushchenko himself sits on the advisory board!

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This May, the Virginia-based private management consultancy Development Associates, Inc., was awarded $100 million by the U.S. government "for strengthening national legislatures and other deliberative bodies worldwide." According to the organization's Web site, several million dollars from this went to Ukraine in advance of the elections.

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Note from the USAID page on Ukraine: "Beyond the power sector, USAID plans to identify and assist in removing the obstacles of proper market functioning in other segments of the energy sector such as the privatization of the oil and gas transportation systems."
https://web.archive.org/web/20040826143304/http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2003/ee/ua/121-0150.html

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Yushenko administration lost the presidency 15 months later:


Notably, one of the things that lost him the Presidency only 15 months later was his turn toward the same brand of extreme nationalism. He elevated Stephen Bandera, (a very controversial figure who is revered by extreme factions that Europe and others warned were tied to Social Nationalist Fascist groups) to "Hero" status.

A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/feb/24/a-fascist-hero-in-democratic-kiev/
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well, with the mideast wars winding down, time to gin up new threats, or recycle old ones. KG Dec 2014 #1
of course they are Bosonic Dec 2014 #2
Vlad the Liar davidpdx Dec 2014 #19
Translation: The Russian Economy Is Tanking n/t DallasNE Dec 2014 #3
Yeah but we love those gas prices . . . n/t Spooky69 Dec 2014 #4
...so useless your economy's in a nose dive. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #5
Methinks the tovarishchi are protesting too much DFW Dec 2014 #6
Sucks to be you Vlad. Maybe next time you'll try an honest, open election before you lay claim to okaawhatever Dec 2014 #7
Only if you ignore reality and history-UKRAINE ANNEXED Crimea against the will of the people newthinking Dec 2014 #9
Wow, that's a creative interpretation of history. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #10
Do your research. I am not going to do it for you newthinking Dec 2014 #11
Here's what the historical facts are: NuclearDem Dec 2014 #12
Who's version is creative lol?? newthinking Dec 2014 #14
Your "version" is a nationalistic one justifying an invasion of a sovereign country. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #15
Did you read the history yet? newthinking Dec 2014 #17
First up, history major. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #18
SO, just to be clear, you SUPPORT a nation seizing and annexing part of another nation... Adrahil Dec 2014 #22
No, I abhor the innacurate angry narrative that avoids the complexity newthinking Dec 2014 #27
Yes, yes... It's all the nasty West's fault... Adrahil Dec 2014 #28
Depth in mass journalism is gone. Here is a link to a wikipedia page newthinking Dec 2014 #13
Bookmarking for a few weeks later. :-| n/t DeSwiss Dec 2014 #8
Useless? Ryan Fitzomething Dec 2014 #16
Sure they are useful. roamer65 Dec 2014 #20
They are useless... Xolodno Dec 2014 #21
So which is it? Adrahil Dec 2014 #23
Thought the implication was obvious... Xolodno Dec 2014 #24
OK. I don't agree, but I do understand your position now. n/t Adrahil Dec 2014 #25
Every country has their own Baghdad Bob, I suppose. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #26
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