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Unca Jim

(558 posts)
26. Sure..
Sat Jul 31, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jul 2021

But that sounds suspiciously like people's objections to Sanders running as an Independent while he works for and caucuses with Democrats. You can try to push the party to the left from the outside and still be there for it when it's your only option for progress. I do not get the tribalism in the party on that subject.

As for the Biden quote, I think it's telling that it's not complete. She said" “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit”. Oligarchy has way too much say in our party. It's OK not to like that and call people beholden to the money to task. I am super, mega, King Kamehameha glad that President Biden has been much better than I expected, but candidate Biden didn't seem that exciting and didn't distance himself from all the corporate influence as much as many wanted to see. Just for the record, once Biden was the nominee Turner endorsed Biden and worked hard to get him elected.

Was Turner wrong to rescind her 2015 support for Clinton, endorse Sanders, then refuse to endorse Clinton as the nominee when she won? In retrospect, sure. But people on the left end of the Democratic spectrum weren't excited about an "it's my turn" candidate who refused to talk about the kitchen table issues that were and are central. Let's be honest, even people who ought to have known better like Turner really didn't think Trump could win. They were incredibly stupid to stay home, but I can understand why it might have seemed a viable option in 2016.

Third Way is all about keeping the rich as rich as possible and hates socialism and social programs. They are literally against any sort of income redistribution. Of course they don't want to see people like Turner elected. Their stated goals are nice and everything, but their ability to ignore the fact that most of the money generated in the past 40 years has gone to the rich and their refusing to act to ameliorate that leads me to dismiss them.

Nina Turner: Wrong for Ohio [View all] NurseJackie Jul 2021 OP
She's a Democrat! Get over it! Cobalt Violet Jul 2021 #1
Really? Here are their areas of focus... which one/s do you disagree with? NurseJackie Jul 2021 #3
When did she say she is a Democrat? redstateblues Jul 2021 #6
According to "The People's Party" (which she co-founded) Nina originally WANTED to run... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2021 #7
Third Way I Agree McKim Jul 2021 #10
Here are their areas of focus... which one/s do you disagree with? It all looks good to me! NurseJackie Jul 2021 #15
Dealings with Third Way in the past, they are a group to create fissures in the Democratic Party. TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #41
So She Says Me. Jul 2021 #11
Only because she's running for office. cab67 Jul 2021 #12
Lol. She's a backstabber and untrustworthy. Just because she worked for Senator Sanders emulatorloo Jul 2021 #19
Nina-T is the same woman who endorsed Jill Fucking Stine instead of Hillary... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #22
Please. She Equated Biden with Trump TomCADem Aug 2021 #44
Just don't understand any real Dem endorsements for nt empedocles Jul 2021 #2
Great ad LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #4
That video is being very kind. George II Jul 2021 #5
Yes... there are a couple of others that make it VERY CLEAR who she is and what she's about. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #13
The amazing thing is these are all things she said herself, direct quotes.... George II Jul 2021 #17
+1. And yes, her own words ... emulatorloo Jul 2021 #20
She made it clear that she has nothing but contempt for the Democratic party and President Biden... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #21
+1 betsuni Jul 2021 #25
Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #8
Can you name one bit of "progress" she's made in her career? George II Jul 2021 #14
There will be no reply. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #16
With candidates like this, expect to lose bigly. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #9
FFS! Unca Jim Jul 2021 #23
Neither one of those has started their own "People's Party" to siphon-off votes from Democrats. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #24
Sure.. Unca Jim Jul 2021 #26
You made it worse for Nina by giving us the "complete" quote... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #27
Bravo!! 👍 NurseJackie Budi Jul 2021 #30
So calling Biden "shit" twice in the full quote is better than once? betsuni Jul 2021 #29
Look, I get it... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #35
Don't know what you mean by "good guys and bad guys." Something is a fact and real, or it isn't. betsuni Aug 2021 #40
OK... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #43
By the way, progressives said they would've voted for Elizabeth Warren if she'd run in 2016. betsuni Aug 2021 #42
Warren... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #51
"Third Way" is a group of progressive DEMOCRATS, and here you are bashing a group of DEMOCRATS!! George II Jul 2021 #32
Yeah, that tribalism... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #36
This is WHY.. 81 Million People were Not "thinking" this.. Cha Jul 2021 #28
Better than "burn it all down" Budi Jul 2021 #31
Weird... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #38
Her juvenile name calling belongs somewhere else Budi Aug 2021 #45
So... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #50
You were thinking Joe Biden is a half bowl of shit AND one of two bowls of shit? And you're fine.... George II Jul 2021 #33
Again... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #39
Lets see, did we want tribal divided juvenile name calling excitement? Budi Aug 2021 #46
For me... Unca Jim Aug 2021 #49
Who are you, Unka Jim? George II Jul 2021 #34
Who are you? Unca Jim Aug 2021 #37
Who Are You Budi Aug 2021 #47
A classic. Unca Jim Aug 2021 #48
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