Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Arizona house so full of guns, it’s a miracle the 3-year-old only now shot himself [View all]jimmy the one
(2,712 posts)straw man: For example, in New York there is no state-mandated training, safety or otherwise, for a CCW.
And Johnston on another thread claims new York state counties are effectively shall issue: you are obviously ignorant of the laws.. New York and California issue by county, each county does what it wants. Most NY counties are defacto shall issue, and about half of California's counties are..
So explain to me Johnston, why new York & California, with maybe half their counties 'doing what it want's' regarding concealed carry, have a small percentage of what similar urbanized pro gun shall issue states have?:
2012 stats:
California 35,000 (may issue ccw permits) with 38 million peeps:
Florida 985,143 with 19.5 million peeps
New York Published data indicates that 93,028 licenses ... 19.6 million peeps
New Jersey 32,000 ... ~ 9 million peeps
Michigan (shall issue) 321,599 .... ~ 10 million peeps
Texas (shall iss) 524,000 ... ~ 26.5 million Texans
Tennessee (shall iss) 376,050
http://www.inquisitr.com/444177/concealed-carry-permit-statistics-by-state-report/#iLeQ4xA0epqSMAdj.99
state.......................ccw % of pop... violcrime rate.. murder rate
California: CCW permit Rate = 0.1% ... 423 ........ 5.0
New York CCW permit rate = 0.5% .... 406 ........ 3.5
Texas CCW permit rate ...= 2.0% ..... 408 ...... 4.4
Florida CCW permit rate .. = 5.1% ........ 487 ...... 5.2
New Jersey CCW permit rate = 0.35% .... 290 ...... 4.4
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/njcrimn.htm (individual states at bottom of link)
So Johnston, pro gun shall issue Florida's ccw permiting rate (accd'g to this website) is 50 times higher than californias, wha' happen to half california's counties being shall issue? maybe peeps don't want?
Texas ccw rate is 4 times higher than new York state (where Johnston says counties are mostly shall issue), & Florida's is 10 times higher than new York state. Looks like may issue states of calif & new York, are not what Johnston thinks they are - shall issue at heart.