2016 Postmortem

noiretextatique

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176. It is par for the course with her

Reply to Beacool (Reply #169)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:23 PM

Mar 2016

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This is not my first time a the rodeo. I know how the Clintons operate. So do a lot of other people.

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The Lie [View all] H2O Man Mar 2016 OP

At the potential of alienating the LGBT community? No way. Metric System Mar 2016 #1

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #5

She didn't misspeak. NPR just said she meant to reference Alzheimer's Arazi Mar 2016 #23

Yeah, that's my problem with that too. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #41

Yes. She helped hide his declining mental acuity while he was a SITTING PRESIDENT. ebayfool Mar 2016 #128

Seems she still thinks her nomination is inevitable tk2kewl Mar 2016 #143

You clearly don't understand how the Clintons work. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #7

something to be proud of berningman Mar 2016 #11

I agree with you. Once the primary is over, where can they go? Jarqui Mar 2016 #80

I haven't voted for a Clinton since DOMA MNBrewer Mar 2016 #98

Ridiculous. Half of us are voting for Bernie already. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #119

count one old alienated gay man Lucretius Mar 2016 #94

The Quilt! BallardWA Mar 2016 #114

That makes two of us, Lucretius Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #155

You know that saying about "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #201

Is that like the saying that goes "Scorn me once, shame on me, scorn me twice, and I'll . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #206

I think you're right. daleanime Mar 2016 #2

Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #19

oooooooooooooooooo... cynical. I like it. yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #3

Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #20

I said that in a few earlier posts today so I fully agree Arazi Mar 2016 #4

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #22

she won't get to the mom this way roguevalley Mar 2016 #51

Three of my Hillary-leaning gay friends noiretextatique Mar 2016 #174

Absolutely speaking the language of Compassionate Conservatism. Octafish Mar 2016 #6

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #25

I expect I will watch it on TV stage left Mar 2016 #156

She's miscalculating this time. People will not vote for her as they used to do in the past. They sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #118

I'm in upstate NY bread_and_roses Mar 2016 #138

Hi! I'm seeing Bernie signs up here in the middle of FARMS. In the middle of nowhere! But not a sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #204

"Miscalculating" is a Hillary tradition, bvar22 Mar 2016 #166

Clinton does the best by far in the Confederacy Fumesucker Mar 2016 #8

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #9

her margins there come from BLACK voters bigtree Mar 2016 #14

Where did I use the term "confederates"? Please be specific. Fumesucker Mar 2016 #21

slick bigtree Mar 2016 #26

You made an accusation Fumesucker Mar 2016 #40

Mmm, the "Confederacy" may be just a shorthand way to say "Southern States," malthaussen Mar 2016 #44

as I think about it bigtree Mar 2016 #71

Well, I tend to understatement. malthaussen Mar 2016 #75

It is a perfectly valid predicate to describe a system emerging from feudalism kristopher Mar 2016 #189

Yep, the whole praising of nancy was part of the campaign. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #10

Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #27

I'm not buying this theory BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12

Some do. H2O Man Mar 2016 #31

You're forgetting her ego. Maedhros Mar 2016 #33

we may be over thinking here. I just think she is stupid here roguevalley Mar 2016 #56

Thats a good point. Mbrow Mar 2016 #91

she hasn't writtten off progressives bigtree Mar 2016 #13

She admitted she was wrong because she got busted tularetom Mar 2016 #24

you mean she was corrected bigtree Mar 2016 #29

She said they PIONEERED a conversation that they... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #49

she's admitted she was wrong bigtree Mar 2016 #73

She didn't misspeak. She made shit up. MNBrewer Mar 2016 #99

Wrong? That's A Laugh billhicks76 Mar 2016 #116

I really like and respect you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #34

she apologized and reversed her statement, full stop bigtree Mar 2016 #65

Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #67

A "sorry I got caught lying" skepticscott Mar 2016 #96

You once said "Sanders' campaign admits to lying their asses off in a fundraising email" and.... Logical Mar 2016 #127

That line about the Reagans being strong advocates for stem cells. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #42

She has yet to clarify their record on HIV and AIDS, she needs to do so. In addition she Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #113

She knew she lied, she just did not plan on being caught so quick. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #126

Yep... WillyT Mar 2016 #15

Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #35

That makes a lot of sense, and the retraction and apology FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #16

And this way, she gets to be all things to all people! (Or so she thinks...) reformist2 Mar 2016 #18

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #36

What you say is true but I don't think that's what happened here. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #17

Very good. H2O Man Mar 2016 #38

Oh, sure they do. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #100

republicans will *never* vote for Clinton... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #28

That's simply untrue. H2O Man Mar 2016 #45

That's NY, I guess... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #62

Again, H2O Man Mar 2016 #77

By chance, do you have those 'numbers' from NYS? TheProgressive Mar 2016 #88

Yes but this Primary season druidity33 Mar 2016 #181

Oh, I disagree. malthaussen Mar 2016 #53

I updated my answer below... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #66

Oh sure they will. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #103

A woman who openly embraces war criminal Henry Kissinger farleftlib Mar 2016 #30

Well said. H2O Man Mar 2016 #47

KnR! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #32

Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #48

It does at least suggest something she might be hoping to gain. malthaussen Mar 2016 #37

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #52

The difficulty I see with that is... malthaussen Mar 2016 #63

Her attempt at CYA by claiming she was talking about Alzheimers is pathetic. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #39

"Pathetic" H2O Man Mar 2016 #54

I'll add "obvious", and "calculated". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #59

I agree! H2O Man Mar 2016 #61

Aw, c'mon, don't be shy... malthaussen Mar 2016 #69

I think it was just ignorant pandering ibegurpard Mar 2016 #43

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #58

if you're right ibegurpard Mar 2016 #82

Just like Bill praising Nixon and Reagan to the skies at THEIR funerals. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #46

Yep. H2O Man Mar 2016 #60

She is seriously Old Codger Mar 2016 #50

I agree H2O Man Mar 2016 #64

In another post Old Codger Mar 2016 #70

I have been getting H2O Man Mar 2016 #74

On both sides, be it noted. malthaussen Mar 2016 #84

I put nothing past them, nothing!! haikugal Mar 2016 #78

I don't Old Codger Mar 2016 #121

Agree with you... zentrum Mar 2016 #55

Oh, yes, definitely. H2O Man Mar 2016 #68

Quite astute observation you have about Hil pandering to neocon voters. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #57

Per neocons, see: H2O Man Mar 2016 #72

Yes that is my take also... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #76

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #79

But it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. longship Mar 2016 #81

Because there's nothing ibegurpard Mar 2016 #87

Pretty much my point. It was an unforced error. longship Mar 2016 #90

It was indeed H2O Man Mar 2016 #170

I agree. MuseRider Mar 2016 #83

Scared patients... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #97

Powerful. MuseRider Mar 2016 #104

. TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #107

Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #171

I lost an uncle to AIDS. LS_Editor Mar 2016 #85

1986 Kittycat Mar 2016 #129

Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #172

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #86

Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #173

She just desicrated my boy's grave Lucretius Mar 2016 #89

Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #175

I believe Bill encouraged Trump to run in order to weaken Bernie's campaign. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #92

Except that Mr Trump has been making disparaging and threatening noises towards Hillary. malthaussen Mar 2016 #93

Well Trump couldn't very well avoid doing that as he's running in the Republican Primary. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #102

Disparage, yes, in the GE, not the primaries. malthaussen Mar 2016 #106

Bill knows Trump well enough to realize his penchant for bluster, and Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #115

i feel like the original plan was for trump to split the repub vote questionseverything Mar 2016 #148

Interesting. H2O Man Mar 2016 #177

I always thought that Hillary matched up well against Jeb, both were establishment Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #198

The Clintons are past masters at manipulating people and groups. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #95

Right! H2O Man Mar 2016 #178

My pet CT is that Trump is a stalking horse, that stalked too well. HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #101

I agree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #180

Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #105

The west is the best ..... H2O Man Mar 2016 #182

You are a treasure, Mr. Waterman. bunnies Mar 2016 #108

Thanks, bunnies! H2O Man Mar 2016 #183

Oh! I didn't think of that, for one minute, but yes, closeupready Mar 2016 #109

Thanks. H2O Man Mar 2016 #184

A poem HassleCat Mar 2016 #110

Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #185

Some of you over think things. Beacool Mar 2016 #111

Do you say that to black people?... TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #117

Team Hillary thinks anti gay bigotry is 'different' and they excuse it constantly. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #141

Agreed cemaphonic Mar 2016 #131

"This place always feels like being in sixth grade . . ." Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #134

That comment just stinks, it reeks of contempt for LGBT and your own assumed superior status Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #140

It´s better then the poster Puglover Mar 2016 #153

I understand the outrage, I get it. Beacool Mar 2016 #169

It is par for the course with her noiretextatique Mar 2016 #176

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #186

This message was self-deleted by its author Sensitive soul Mar 2016 #112

Thanks! H2O Man Mar 2016 #187

This is my problem.. Hillary could have said so many nice things mountain grammy Mar 2016 #120

Right. I agree. H2O Man Mar 2016 #188

It's insulting to the memory of a lot of DEAD people too. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #122

And their families. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #123

Yes, indeed. H2O Man Mar 2016 #190

Yes, it does. senseandsensibility Mar 2016 #124

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #191

In other words, Hillary becoming the long-lost "GOP Establishment" candidate Wednesdays Mar 2016 #125

That is an interesting H2O Man Mar 2016 #192

There is a third possibility, perhaps she actually believed the incident occurred. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #130

I guess that it H2O Man Mar 2016 #193

significant parts of the Clinton campaign are planning to get votes from conservative republicans, AlbertCat Mar 2016 #132

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #194

It's' not a lie. It's history evolving! Bernblu Mar 2016 #133

Very good! H2O Man Mar 2016 #195

She may be assured that lost of progressives have written her off after her praise for that Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #135

Right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #196

She has lost me, I can tell you. I never thought to find myself LEFT of the Democratic party, but Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #200

Bizarre is what I call it. mmonk Mar 2016 #136

Bizarre, it is. H2O Man Mar 2016 #197

Hillary never speaks off script on something like this. She said what she meant to say. Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #137

Absolutely...you can bet her statement had been thoroughly vetted skepticscott Mar 2016 #147

As I have said elsewhere a few times, Hillary is a surrogate Republican pretend to be a Democrat. kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #139

K&R Zorra Mar 2016 #142

Yes. Hillary will be far easier to 'work' with than Bernie lunatica Mar 2016 #144

the calculation seems to be that all of us to the Left of her will have no choice GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #145

That seems to be the case, when the AIDS comment is combined with claiming Kissinger as an adviser Babel_17 Mar 2016 #146

A disturbing history of exaggeration and outright falsehoods ... Auggie Mar 2016 #149

Clinton supposedy lost Michigan in part because her peeps crossed over to vote (R). merrily Mar 2016 #150

Good post as usual ladjf Mar 2016 #151

i'm beginning to think the clintons have political alzheimers veronique25 Mar 2016 #152

Sad K&R. But your March 1 post makes sense too... I hope Bernie wins a few more primaries and can Overseas Mar 2016 #154

I think it would besafe to conclude and argue that the "lie" stupidicus Mar 2016 #157

The Lie was for Millennials who are too young to remember. PADemD Mar 2016 #158

+1 nt stage left Mar 2016 #168

Nobody plays both sides of an issue better than Hillary jack_krass Mar 2016 #203

Sec. Clinton deserves a break on this one, seriously... jack_krass Mar 2016 #159

lol! political alzheimers, clinton-style veronique25 Mar 2016 #165

No one deserve a break on this Geronimoe Mar 2016 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #160

I don't know if dem leadership has decided they can win without the left or CrispyQ Mar 2016 #161

Hillary lying? Nickel79 Mar 2016 #162

There's Something In The Air...K&R bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #163

I believe that has long been the plan. Trump may well be a Clinton invention. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #164

At our county assembly today randr Mar 2016 #167

Do you think Clinton supporters would be excusing Bernie? noiretextatique Mar 2016 #179

Sometimes the veil is pulled back... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #202

Talked with young people yesterday. They see through this. nt kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #205

kick for refreshing memory kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #207

k&r Electric Monk Mar 2016 #208

yes; and there is even an article amborin Mar 2016 #209