2016 Postmortem

roguevalley

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182. bill grew up white in a racist state and time. apparently it still seeped

Reply to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #147)

Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:59 PM

Apr 2016

In no matter what his grandpa tried to do. He's rich, schmoozed and above the law. What would he care or remember about being powerless? I cannot stand the thought of him being back in the white house.

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How in the hell is anybody actually defending what Bill said to those BLM activists?!? [View all] retrowire Apr 2016 OP

Blind devotion. n/t Motown_Johnny Apr 2016 #1

To power. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2016 #3

+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #151

Authoritarian adulation. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #165

Please Note My Personal Understandng of BLM & THOUGH... Rockyj Apr 2016 #172

Shillary bots with head in sand. N/t JesterCS Apr 2016 #2

No - they claim that this was bill working on BLM long ago SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #168

Brilliant post, Retrowire. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #4

Just racking my brain here. retrowire Apr 2016 #9

Bill may not get a pass on this one. The tide may be turning. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #14

Sanders supporters were called racist for suggesting BLM adopt different tactics arcane1 Apr 2016 #41

Exactly. The Clintons like African-Americans just as far as they can exploit them. mhatrw Apr 2016 #108

I am mystified why ANY PoC supports ANY Clinton. bvar22 Apr 2016 #163

I've been wondering when Bill was gonna stick his foot in his mouth, dchill Apr 2016 #101

Did she really say "I'll only talk to white people?" Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #134

yes. when she did have an honest dialogue with BLM retrowire Apr 2016 #135

To be fair, that's highly out of context. mythology Apr 2016 #145

+1 I can't answer your question. merrily Apr 2016 #5

actual experience protesting gives you a different perspective virtualobserver Apr 2016 #10

Well, you know, the Southern primaries are pretty much over, so... Karmadillo Apr 2016 #6

I was on the fence for a bit, needing more information and not the usual out of context AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #7

I appreciate your input. retrowire Apr 2016 #17

Well I can as I I'm sure many others can as well take the comment for what it is.." AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #23

Thank you for the elaboration. :) nt retrowire Apr 2016 #25

The context is... JSup Apr 2016 #55

thank fucking god retrowire Apr 2016 #56

Here it is: JSup Apr 2016 #58

edited op to reflect the new info retrowire Apr 2016 #59

Thank you. JSup Apr 2016 #61

gads.....indefensible! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #100

Please excuse my ignorance .. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #137

the comment without context was retrowire Apr 2016 #139

Thank you, but what is the context, though? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #142

oh i said it in my edit retrowire Apr 2016 #143

Ah, okay. Thanks for the info! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #147

bill grew up white in a racist state and time. apparently it still seeped roguevalley Apr 2016 #182

That was just ugly. Trying to defend his failures azmom Apr 2016 #8

Rec'd and thanks. nt babylonsister Apr 2016 #11

Because Breitbart posted about it too. So ya know... it's a right wing smear. jillan Apr 2016 #12

God damnit, that is my favorite counter argument of theirs too. retrowire Apr 2016 #15

Anything that is negative Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #136

Bill needs to read this book: Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Cocaine Explosion cui bono Apr 2016 #13

if you look at everything bad...usually the cia is involved questionseverything Apr 2016 #34

Well there's this: Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. cui bono Apr 2016 #98

it is not the average soldier bringing tons of it back questionseverything Apr 2016 #144

Recommended reading to be sure. frylock Apr 2016 #36

He's already read that book and ten thousand more. demosincebirth Apr 2016 #109

What an odd post. cui bono Apr 2016 #146

It is what it is. Plain English. demosincebirth Apr 2016 #192

Bill has lost it nichomachus Apr 2016 #16

He became an embarrassment when he lied about Monica Lewinsky. Punkingal Apr 2016 #21

If an average American executive had "relations" with an intern... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #29

Monica bore the greatest burden to this day roguevalley Apr 2016 #183

I must have missed something, Is it BILL Clinton running 4 Dem nomination? I thought it was Hillary? Bill USA Apr 2016 #18

He's 'helping' her. Maybe she should ask him to go away. nt babylonsister Apr 2016 #22

It's a 2-for-1, just ask Hillary...* Yurovsky Apr 2016 #31

Her campaign decided to take him bvf Apr 2016 #46

The Clintons are a team. Bill will be co-president if Hillary is elected. /nt NCjack Apr 2016 #50

Very true. bvf Apr 2016 #114

Being married to a president is very similar to being president. jonestonesusa Apr 2016 #94

Well the way he brazenly breaks electioneering laws you'd think it was him. cui bono Apr 2016 #99

Surrogates are fair game in politics. We realize Hillary's supporters believe special rules to apply WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #121

K&R CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #19

... AzDar Apr 2016 #20

Bill dug himself a hole by trying to defend the indefensible BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #24

Just awesome Bill Clinton. Explain this ugly. eom. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #26

You can defend it if you lived it and lost family lives from gangs and thugs. That's how!! nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #27

Hello, I grew up in a city of crime. retrowire Apr 2016 #30

I just didn't hear it like you heard it. Civility works both ways...except where BS supporters are Jitter65 Apr 2016 #51

from op retrowire Apr 2016 #53

LOL. And did you apply the same standard to Sanders' interactions with BLM? mhatrw Apr 2016 #111

+1000 we have a winner noiretextatique Apr 2016 #149

It was my belief that when Bill started this rebuttal, floriduck Apr 2016 #28

"when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. " uponit7771 Apr 2016 #32

i was one of the Bernie supporters here that thought that line retrowire Apr 2016 #38

Bill gets the benefit of the doubt, I've not even read what he said ... Sanders does not especially uponit7771 Apr 2016 #42

you haven't even read what bill said? nt retrowire Apr 2016 #44

Nope, he defended his wife Sanders had Cornell West stump for him... any questions? tia uponit7771 Apr 2016 #45

nope lol. retrowire Apr 2016 #49

Nah, just Sanders doesn't have much room to talk when it comes to BLM. Cornell West stumping uponit7771 Apr 2016 #70

Got it, Cornell West, Cornell West, Cornell West. retrowire Apr 2016 #72

None of those people stumped for Clinton after calling Obama niggerized like Cornell West did last.. uponit7771 Apr 2016 #74

I may not agree with what he said, but I'll defend to the death his right to say it. retrowire Apr 2016 #76

It isn't just "one" statement from West or Sanders either ... it's a continued strain from them in uponit7771 Apr 2016 #79

All praise be to Obama. retrowire Apr 2016 #85

Strawman, no one said that... and calling Obama "niggerized" and having that person stump uponit7771 Apr 2016 #87

I know no one said that. retrowire Apr 2016 #89

They're not one person but when it comes to Obama they're of one mind: They don't like him... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #91

sundry ways eh? retrowire Apr 2016 #92

So out of 12341234 issues you name 8 and Obama aint shit hunh... but... but... people have syndromes uponit7771 Apr 2016 #120

i am also one of the bernie supporters who didnt agree with retrowire Apr 2016 #140

Here's a question melman Apr 2016 #102

Why does Bill Clinton choie Apr 2016 #95

Nope, wonderful relationships kept for years... the same can't be said for Sanders and then uponit7771 Apr 2016 #119

"wonderful relationships?" choie Apr 2016 #122

They've upped their rhetoric... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #125

Yeap, imperfect but there... vs absent until votes are needed that's way more bullshit than whatever uponit7771 Apr 2016 #126

there where? choie Apr 2016 #127

In churches, schools, community centers and doesn't choose someone who called Obama niggerized uponit7771 Apr 2016 #128

No, it isn't enough for me... choie Apr 2016 #129

The person who's always been there speaking on a communities issues have more credibility than uponit7771 Apr 2016 #130

ad nausea is right... choie Apr 2016 #133

I remember West being in Iowa CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #173

Then you are a useful tool noiretextatique Apr 2016 #156

race baiting = cornell west uponit7771 Apr 2016 #157

Race-baiting: Sistah Souljah noiretextatique Apr 2016 #159

Truth...too bad you have an issue with it noiretextatique Apr 2016 #150

truth only to racist minded folk or those who don't have normal exposure to a wide swath of balcks uponit7771 Apr 2016 #158

Elitist bullshit noiretextatique Apr 2016 #162

it is just coincidence DonCoquixote Apr 2016 #33

The phrase "super predator" by Hillary was a reference to crack dealers in black neighborhoods brush Apr 2016 #106

So super predators... tonedevil Apr 2016 #177

That's right. Them and their agents, the higher up, intermediate level and local pushers . . . brush Apr 2016 #186

If Donald Trump had said it, DU would be unanimous in its opposition. arcane1 Apr 2016 #35

I continue to lose respect for Bill And Hillary, more and more each day. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #37

Because they don't actually give a shit, and never did. /nt Marr Apr 2016 #39

BLM is supposed to be about Police brutality/excessive force. Not standing up for drug dealers/gangs timlot Apr 2016 #40

Bill Clinton is burying any.chance Hillary might have for winning. BigBearJohn Apr 2016 #43

I will never give him a cigar. merrily Apr 2016 #65

They were for BLM before they were against them. marmar Apr 2016 #47

Bill ,sometimes silence is golden. Shut up. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #48

I have not told you often enough MuseRider Apr 2016 #52

+1 merrily Apr 2016 #66

I must say ... All this concern about BLM ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #54

so honorable of you to misinterpret my concern as new... nt retrowire Apr 2016 #60

I mis-interpreted nothing ... you saw an opportunity to attack. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #63

Sigh* Nope, I am not using BLM as a means to attack the Clinton campaign. retrowire Apr 2016 #67

I've always been supportive of BLM and I've posted this video in the past, Bill is a known entity to Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #82

Yeah ... Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #93

Stop smearing Sanders supporters with fasle generalities. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #190

Why do you work so hard to make yourself a victim? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #191

I must say, that is not even close to a defense of what Clinton said. mhatrw Apr 2016 #112

you seriously think 1StrongBlackMan would support a racist ? steve2470 Apr 2016 #113

I want see those in the AA group vouch for what Bill Clinton said a few hours ago. mhatrw Apr 2016 #115

IF stats are consistent and Democratic Underground is 90% white, it would Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #152

But they know EVERYTHING ... They keep telling me so. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #153

Must be a defect in you, because you still arent listening. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #155

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #160

THE-LIVES-YOU-SAY-MATTER Bill Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #57

Because to the true believers Hillary not only walks on water, her shoes don't even get damp. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #62

Racists were trolling Twitter today, agreeing with Bill Clinton "for once" GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #64

seen it too. nt Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #181

I will try... JSup Apr 2016 #68

I like you! retrowire Apr 2016 #71

Definitely... JSup Apr 2016 #73

Well that's because we didn't let emotion impede our ability to reason with each other. retrowire Apr 2016 #75

Well, you looking for context... JSup Apr 2016 #77

It's ok, it's the nature of politics. retrowire Apr 2016 #78

Nope...false analogy. Contrary1 Apr 2016 #96

How is anybody defending someone who called Obama niggerized stumping for Sanders in front of uponit7771 Apr 2016 #69

Who's defending it? retrowire Apr 2016 #86

Do a search, bunch of people still calling West critique "slights" uponit7771 Apr 2016 #88

A critique like that is a slight. retrowire Apr 2016 #90

wow... now you're standing behind semantics... typical... no really typical. uponit7771 Apr 2016 #188

lol you're the one who argued definitions not me XD nt retrowire Apr 2016 #189

Nice deflection Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #185

Do you remember the 90's kennetha Apr 2016 #80

I rememberr the 90's. Here's Bill berating AIDS activists in 1992 Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #84

So, now we've filled our prisons with drug users. Great. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #118

The point he was trying to make... potone Apr 2016 #81

Drawing a black on the bill in question rjj621 Apr 2016 #104

is he talking about CIA assets? reddread Apr 2016 #83

That is the Clinton vote block, they beat Bernie with. I hope they wise up! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #97

you can't defend it amborin Apr 2016 #103

Full Quote kennetha Apr 2016 #105

Thanks. Context helps. Martin Eden Apr 2016 #164

Where are all Clinton's AA supporters? mhatrw Apr 2016 #107

Great post Retro. KPN Apr 2016 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Apr 2016 #116

You have people here who will defend DWS's support for putting medical marijuana users in prison. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #117

not to mention payday loans... choie Apr 2016 #131

Thanks for the edit (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #123

no problem! nt retrowire Apr 2016 #124

Well, I'm kicking and reccing the hell out of this. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #132

Good question Fairgo Apr 2016 #138

Honestly, Rebkeh Apr 2016 #141

Divide and conquer is always the plan used by an elite group outnumbered by those they oppress. Dragonfli Apr 2016 #161

It's all about supporting the team, silly! QC Apr 2016 #148

kick merrily Apr 2016 #154

So, you are whinning that you did not get a real response? I passed it by when I read your riversedge Apr 2016 #166

...? retrowire Apr 2016 #169

Kick. panader0 Apr 2016 #167

Why not? They've already defended him for getting blowjobs from young interns in the Whitehouse Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #170

Hillary's people will, apparently, say anything - exactly like their teacher. (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #171

Why do you hate America? Capn Sunshine Apr 2016 #174

K&R B Calm Apr 2016 #175

I hope BLM is organizing a march in NYC - for Bernie Sanders ViseGrip Apr 2016 #176

An attempt at resolving cognitive dissonance tymorial Apr 2016 #178

x 10000000 n/t Butterbean Apr 2016 #187

Legend in his own mind Little_Wing Apr 2016 #179

Not too many jumping in to help Bill on this. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #180

I don't think he thought ahead to what the likely reaction will be, Babel_17 Apr 2016 #184