2016 Postmortem

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65. right out of the gate

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:03 PM

Oct 2015

Hillary, why do you flip flop?

She jumped around it with the defense of (paraphrase) "I never ABSOLUTELY committed myself to those views."

Wow.

Nobody cares about your grandfather's job Hillary.

"I'm a progressive! But I'm a progressive that gets things done."

:/

She really is... bending words.

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~*Official Debate Thread for all DUer's.*~ Let's just talk about this live!! [View all] retrowire Oct 2015 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #1

Well, off to a great start with reply #1. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #2

Yeah wow retrowire Oct 2015 #4

Ticked me off that CNN got it wrong from the start, saying Bernie is a phylny Oct 2015 #5

That was intentional. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #7

hilarious tweet from david corn restorefreedom Oct 2015 #3

And here they are! retrowire Oct 2015 #6

Leaning Sanders, but want to hear from O'Malley. demmiblue Oct 2015 #8

Oh no problem. :) n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #12

For all With Limited Bandwidth Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #318

well Robbins Oct 2015 #9

Agreed! Bernie's cheers had a rock concert scream and it muffled the mics. Yep. retrowire Oct 2015 #10

Guess I'll check in here. jwirr Oct 2015 #11

Welcome! n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #14

Oy! demmiblue Oct 2015 #13

Very excited and pleased to cheer Bernie on. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2015 #15

Me too friend. retrowire Oct 2015 #20

I'm here. It's nice to see sane people - couldn't bear to watch the Repukes mvd Oct 2015 #16

I prefer to think of them as ReKochans as they care not for the Public n/t griloco Oct 2015 #113

All this hype and all these commercials are annoying oberliner Oct 2015 #17

+1 Auggie Oct 2015 #19

k&r uppityperson Oct 2015 #18

We're back from commercials! retrowire Oct 2015 #21

Webbed up colons Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #321

Ugh! CNN is treating the debate like a pro-wrestling match. last1standing Oct 2015 #22

Yes it is really annoying oberliner Oct 2015 #26

CNN Founder, Ted Turner is libertarian, CNN remains libertarian, They gave O'Malley a big boost. Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #330

chafee is sounding good! restorefreedom Oct 2015 #23

agreed! Good work so far. Good showing. retrowire Oct 2015 #27

Yes, really great job pointing out his extensive levels of experience. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2015 #30

Great answer about not changing his views.. frylock Oct 2015 #80

it was restorefreedom Oct 2015 #87

Kinda feel sorry for Chafee oberliner Oct 2015 #24

I have a lot of respect for Chafee. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #31

I do too oberliner Oct 2015 #38

Nice introduction from Chafee retrowire Oct 2015 #25

Linc just took a gentle swipe at HRC in his intro. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #28

Webb not so smooth in delivery. sounds like he's tripping over words. lots of pauses and uhhhs n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #29

Yes, a bit nervous, I imagine. Don't blame him! GreenPartyVoter Oct 2015 #32

I don't. I understand. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #34

came right out about campaign reform though restorefreedom Oct 2015 #33

agreed! n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #35

Yes, that was good to hear. I think we can look forward to some good policy comparisons tonight. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2015 #39

O'Malley sounds like he is begging. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #37

O'Malley is very poised and trained. retrowire Oct 2015 #36

He did well spinbaby Oct 2015 #55

My first time 2naSalit Oct 2015 #40

BERNIEEE!! retrowire Oct 2015 #41

Bernie comes out swinging! :) nt Javaman Oct 2015 #42

Boom! GreenPartyVoter Oct 2015 #49

Straight fire from Sanders frylock Oct 2015 #43

I love Bernie's fire! Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #44

bernie is rocking the joint! nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #46

I love this Robbins Oct 2015 #52

4 for 4 so far restorefreedom Oct 2015 #45

Talk to the camera, HRC. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #47

Bernie didn't tell us about his Grandparents?!?!? WTF? Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #48

Yeah, really. kath Oct 2015 #53

I know or how many kids he has BuelahWitch Oct 2015 #56

Hillary already shot herself in the foot. One Man Stands Alone Oct 2015 #50

"sharing profits" with the INVESTORS is our inescapable reality, and she well knows it. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #59

Thank you! WinkyDink Oct 2015 #51

Here's Hillary. retrowire Oct 2015 #54

Gender Card. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #57

I'm kind of turned off by Hillary's use of "the first woman president" line. retrowire Oct 2015 #58

her comes hillary's new slogan, "yeah, me too!"nt Javaman Oct 2015 #60

Now the Hill copied Bernie's Family Leave policy and raising the minimum wage policy in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #61

rooting in her values? they seem to change a lot. what will they be next week? nt Javaman Oct 2015 #62

What day is it? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #78

You're a progressive, Hillary? Since when? DLC much? Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #63

Plans and policies aside, HRC simply doesn't have---to my ears---a pleasant speaking voice. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #64

right out of the gate retrowire Oct 2015 #65

only a "progressive" when standing next to Bernie. The real progressive. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #66

Anderson Cooper ain't fucking around. joshcryer Oct 2015 #67

Makes it worthwhile! WinkyDink Oct 2015 #72

Bernie is no bullshit. :) nt Javaman Oct 2015 #68

And that, mon ami, is his HUGE advantage. He is and sounds REAL. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #75

Clinton had best opening remarks itsrobert Oct 2015 #69

"Angry"?? AND WTH NOT, looking at the top 1% and Wall Street?? WinkyDink Oct 2015 #79

Bernie sounding like an angry man itsrobert Oct 2015 #81

No, it is not. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #90

That's my opinion itsrobert Oct 2015 #96

The thing is, "tone" CAN be defined; happens every day in English class. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #118

anger NJCher Oct 2015 #329

He sounds passionate and energized. O'Malley sounds like he's asleep nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #98

Bernie kicking ass. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #70

Anderson is so smarmy and annoying oberliner Oct 2015 #71

I don't think so. He's asking the toughest questions for Fawke Em Oct 2015 #84

How many people on this stage are capitalists? oberliner Oct 2015 #99

He explained Democratic Socialism in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #73

bernie is doing great Robbins Oct 2015 #88

Hillary running interference for her corporate donors. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #74

Bernie handled a gotcha question well. Hillary went from being progressive to being Repuke-lite Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #76

Whoa. Fireworks already! DanTex Oct 2015 #77

I don't care for the boiler-plate "Mom and Pop businesses on little old Main Street" blather. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #86

it is boiler plate bullshit. you're right. those days are long gone and given over to walmart. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #97

chafee: block of granite restorefreedom Oct 2015 #82

First question to Bernie is about Socialism. retrowire Oct 2015 #83

asked and answered demwing Oct 2015 #93

It's time that capitalism take a back seat to other systems that put people first, not money. reformist2 Oct 2015 #85

hey corporations are people my friend. LOL Javaman Oct 2015 #91

Listening on radio. Bernie sounds like Larry David. StrongBad Oct 2015 #89

you never see them both in the same room. ;) hmmm. lol nt Javaman Oct 2015 #92

Why is Anderson being so stern......this is NOT his nature....JMHO. eom a kennedy Oct 2015 #94

with Dems he can, with repukes he'd have to dumb down the questions and... Javaman Oct 2015 #101

so sneaky Hill managed to steal a minute or so of Bernie's time magical thyme Oct 2015 #95

Cooper asked if the others weren't Capitalists, either, and she verbally responded. Didn't "steal." WinkyDink Oct 2015 #104

Hillary's doing that bobblehead thing. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #100

O'Malley has an unusual pace and tone demwing Oct 2015 #102

AKA, "boring." WinkyDink Oct 2015 #106

I'm listening to the radio and he sounds flat nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #109

And not in a good way awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #313

We're seeing a real difference between Hillary and Bernie. last1standing Oct 2015 #103

she's to polished, doesn't come across as genuine. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #108

I like what you like. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #110

Much harder questioning vs the rethug debates lastone Oct 2015 #105

because there are adults on the stage lol nt Javaman Oct 2015 #114

Bernie has warmed up. retrowire Oct 2015 #107

Fireworks on gun control oberliner Oct 2015 #111

Brady bill vote and guns question in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #112

Sanders was fine I thought - one mistake was.. mvd Oct 2015 #119

Honestly, HRC is saying anything to get elected. I don't believe her at all. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #115

like I said up thread, she's too polished. Javaman Oct 2015 #117

Hillary just smeared Bernie and lied about the law. last1standing Oct 2015 #116

Chafee "believes in the second amendment" Renew Deal Oct 2015 #131

hillary nodding in the background. Javaman Oct 2015 #120

Bad show, O'Malley. Using a pull on emotion to obscure the law. last1standing Oct 2015 #121

Sanders just went pro-gun in the debate Renew Deal Oct 2015 #122

that's not pro-gun. that's how things are... Javaman Oct 2015 #125

He was saying that the one size fits all law Hillary and O'Malley support won't work. last1standing Oct 2015 #129

No, not necessarily, he said there are different views in different states and if we just shout ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #138

Dishonest, disingenuous bullshit. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #176

Trying to take down Bernie on the guns. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #123

O'Malley and Bernie just butted heads. retrowire Oct 2015 #124

O'Malley's an "interrupter." Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #150

"You haven't been in the United States Congress" demwing Oct 2015 #126

Sanders needs a better response to the gun issue Blasphemer Oct 2015 #127

I don't since I live in a rural state. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #130

Having rural areas in a state is not the same thing. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #136

O'Malley and Hillary BOTH attacking Bernie on guns. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #128

Yup. they are trying to pry open something but it ain't happening. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #134

heh! even Hill had to laugh when Bernie explained to O'M that he's never been in Congress, that you magical thyme Oct 2015 #132

In a sane world, Jim Webb would be the frontrunner for the Republican nomination WhoIsNumberNone Oct 2015 #133

LOL zing! LOL nt Javaman Oct 2015 #137

I like Bernie better than Hillary as a candidate reflection Oct 2015 #135

she just has canned answers. Javaman Oct 2015 #139

So far, I agree. Clinton and O'Malley are doing well Blasphemer Oct 2015 #143

Go Bernie!! nt Javaman Oct 2015 #140

YES! BERNIE JUST HIT HILLARY ON IRAQ! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #141

Sanders and Hillary want an arab coalition. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #149

Gun control debate sucks angrychair Oct 2015 #142

"I did my homework!" good one! zing! nt Javaman Oct 2015 #144

Linc smacked HRC hard. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #145

She deserves it! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #151

here comes hillary's shoulda coulda woulda. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #146

Bernie says "I'm against ground troops" retrowire Oct 2015 #147

This is good: we're still talking about the Iraq war vote. Gregorian Oct 2015 #148

Yep...that vote hangs around her neck like a anvil in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #160

I think Chaffee has the knives out for Hillary. last1standing Oct 2015 #152

hillary sounded very weak on the war issues. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #153

It came across as... retrowire Oct 2015 #164

I absolutely hate HATE to say this, but I remember the time right phylny Oct 2015 #154

I don't. like o'malley said, he did his homework. Javaman Oct 2015 #162

You're right, I was against it and knew it was BS, but there was phylny Oct 2015 #174

Well said Marthe48 Oct 2015 #302

Bernie gave them everything they needed to vote against the war magical thyme Oct 2015 #201

Thanks for your great information :) n/t phylny Oct 2015 #233

Hillary : fight ISIS over there so we don't have to fight them over here. bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #155

chafee just now endorsed bernie! DianeK Oct 2015 #156

I want Bernie as my Commander In Chief. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #157

Iraq. The Midway Rebel Oct 2015 #158

"Under what circumstances would a president Sanders support the use of force?" Renew Deal Oct 2015 #159

it seems as if hillary is parroting much of Bernie says. Javaman Oct 2015 #170

Maybe start a new thread retro wire? I think there are still DUers on dialup riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #161

that was smarmy. "I'm in the middle here..." nt Javaman Oct 2015 #163

Playing the victim. again.... Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #166

Webb's reply. retrowire Oct 2015 #167

No it wasn't. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #172

thank you for the non-fanboy thread Skittles Oct 2015 #165

We are all democrats. retrowire Oct 2015 #175

many people say they will only vote for their candidate, period Skittles Oct 2015 #181

Oh I know. retrowire Oct 2015 #185

What is up with Jim Webb? Tab Oct 2015 #168

he is kind of getting screwed timewise imo. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #173

I agree. n/t demmiblue Oct 2015 #180

Maybe he wants to sell more books. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #178

Passive-aggressive smarminess. demmiblue Oct 2015 #169

Hillary is far too canned. last1standing Oct 2015 #171

Why shouldn't she practice? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #177

there is practiced then there is too polished. Javaman Oct 2015 #183

She's the most experienced at this level. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #190

at regurgitating canned answers, you got that right. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #197

The whole point of practicing is not to sound practiced. last1standing Oct 2015 #192

Its almost like quakerboy Oct 2015 #331

Hillary is coming across as "how dare you slow down my cornonation!" Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #179

You're just making stuff up Renew Deal Oct 2015 #191

I don't think that's accurate, or at least that's not what I'm seeing, and phylny Oct 2015 #196

MY FORMER JOB WAS READING BODY LANGUAGE. YOU'RE WRONG! She isn't showing anger. BERNIE IS SHOUTING trueblue2007 Oct 2015 #205

Is Jim Webb actually getting supporters through is performance tonight? n/t phylny Oct 2015 #182

Bernie fumbled that reply. last1standing Oct 2015 #184

I agree. He could have done better. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #186

At first, yeah. Seemed like he was caught off guard. I thought it was a good recovery though. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #187

Responding to Webb was a tough spot. Just WTF was he talking about? Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #188

It's a terrible way to ask a question. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #199

Maybe Anderson was lost too. I know I was. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #214

Webb rambled all over the place, and then Cooper just asked "Sen. Sanders?" bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #200

He should have just made his own points. last1standing Oct 2015 #213

Agree Renew Deal Oct 2015 #229

O'Malley keeps staring at Clinton demwing Oct 2015 #189

He may be trying to make her nervous. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #194

Anyone else think.. cannabis_flower Oct 2015 #332

you know what's amazing? Javaman Oct 2015 #193

Hillary is getting into a quagmire on the middle east situation Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #195

O'Malley is running for VP INdemo Oct 2015 #198

That's been obvious for 6 months. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #202

I don't know...he took some direct shots at Hillary on Iraq. magical thyme Oct 2015 #209

Webb running for (Republican) VP bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #212

Webb sounds like he wants war with China. RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #203

I'm glad that Webb, a former Marine respects Bernie's conscientious objector status from Vietnam, retrowire Oct 2015 #204

That was an excellent moment. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #230

Cooper going with the draft dodger card. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #206

They are hitting Bernie on all his weaknesses... AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #207

I think he's doing a great job. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #210

Bernie knows it - this ain't his first rodeo! bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #219

This is a good thing though. retrowire Oct 2015 #221

This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #228

Bernie replies are reasoned and thought out. not canned replies. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #208

Bernie straight up said it. retrowire Oct 2015 #211

Chafee just went at Webb over the Iran deal Renew Deal Oct 2015 #215

chafee is surprising me in a good way restorefreedom Oct 2015 #216

Conscientious Objector question and explanation in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #217

You realize that being in the military does not make you an expert on military intervention Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #218

No, being a CO doesn't make someone less of a potential commander in chief. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #220

hillary seemed to fumble on the greatest threat think. she wasn't prepared for that one. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #222

I agree. Not good for a former SOS. last1standing Oct 2015 #243

Bernie knocked that one out of the park. last1standing Oct 2015 #223

I'm glad Chafee is here. I think he's been very good. magical thyme Oct 2015 #224

He's had a good showing so far. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #227

I can honestly say, Lincoln is the ONLY Republican I have ever liked. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #245

Hillary going with nukes as greatest national security threat. Sanders goes with climate change. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #225

Obama has locked up most of loose nuclear material since he took office. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #240

She does know that Renew Deal Oct 2015 #244

the Pentagon says Climate Change magical thyme Oct 2015 #242

Exactly! rosesaylavee Oct 2015 #325

O'Malley is running for VP INdemo Oct 2015 #226

Bernie's, not Hillary for sure. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #234

Climate change as the greatest strategic threat. Not nuclear materials. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #231

retrowire, would you start a #2 thread? This one is getting too long. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #232

No. 1 Threat to the US: Climate Change. Bernie just kicked that one out of the park. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #235

Bernie certainly won't get the vote from people who think we must go hard on Putin AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #236

This message was self-deleted by its author Overseas Oct 2015 #237

trump just taught me a new word restorefreedom Oct 2015 #238

If anyone personifies "Jabronis" ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #256

lol. he needs a hulk like outfit though. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #269

Benghasm here we come. Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #239

Cooper asking about email... Renew Deal Oct 2015 #241

EMAILGHAZI demwing Oct 2015 #246

Sanders defending Hillary on email. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #247

Okay, Hillary supporters - let's feel the love for Bernie's defense of her! bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #248

bernie defending hillary on emails restorefreedom Oct 2015 #249

Heads exploding on both sides as Bernie sez nobody gives a damn about emails! frylock Oct 2015 #250

Hillary just fucked up her email response. last1standing Oct 2015 #251

yeah that was a weird response on her part. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #261

It was an instant flip-flop. last1standing Oct 2015 #272

Best Bernie response of the night! Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #252

Mic drop moment! Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #262

blows off emails, talks about benghazi then uses subterfuge to distract. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #253

my god! Hillary needs to stop bobbing her head. nt antigop Oct 2015 #254

bobblehead. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #255

Maybe if she takes the spring out of her neck. n/t RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #263

No one will get a bigger applause tonight. last1standing Oct 2015 #257

Enough with the damn emails! Bernie brings the house down! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #258

BERNIE - Enough of the DAMN EMAILS!!! demwing Oct 2015 #259

Bernie is killing it now. retrowire Oct 2015 #260

Chafee says credibility is important Renew Deal Oct 2015 #264

Yeah Bernie! You tell the media off - e-mails are all we have heard about mvd Oct 2015 #265

O'Malley just went directly at DWS about debates. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #266

YES!!!!! Thank you, Martin O'Malley! nt antigop Oct 2015 #274

WOW! Saying no may play well here, but not in ads. last1standing Oct 2015 #267

What do you mean? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #275

Chaffee just went off on basically calling her corrupt. last1standing Oct 2015 #281

I see what you're saying. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #282

how long is the debate? nt Javaman Oct 2015 #268

2.5 hours I think (could be wrong since they changed the start time) Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #277

TV says 2.5 hours Renew Deal Oct 2015 #278

Don Lemon is on wearing a gas mask and bullet proof vest. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #270

I lurve Bernie on the emails. Let Chafee & Webb die on that hill. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #271

Good response from Bernie on BLM! Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #273

O'Malley just repeated Bernie Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #280

Bernie's hitting some homers here! magical thyme Oct 2015 #276

Aaaaaand... Hillary ducks Black Lives Matter Daemonaquila Oct 2015 #279

You noticed that too? Feeling the Bern Oct 2015 #283

But she's mentioned god in virtually ever goddamn response... Yurovsky Oct 2015 #291

but she didn't say what she was going to do? she avoided the question. again. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #284

Man, this debate is like eating a nice steak reflection Oct 2015 #285

O'Malley is going to be Bernies Vp. nt Javaman Oct 2015 #286

well, Hillary, people could live up to their potential if their jobs weren't outsourced or replaced antigop Oct 2015 #287

hillary's plan is better because the corporation are funding her campaign. LOL nt Javaman Oct 2015 #288

hillary, yet again,, "yeah, me too!" nt Javaman Oct 2015 #289

Chaffee has used nearly every comment to nail Hillary. last1standing Oct 2015 #290

I want to tell Jim Webb he can have 20% of the time on the floor when he has phylny Oct 2015 #292

I don't agree with him but I want to hear what he has to say. last1standing Oct 2015 #309

"That's not true." last1standing Oct 2015 #293

hillary,you aren't helping yourself when you say you represented wall street. Javaman Oct 2015 #294

Please switch to *official thread #2*. Those on phones and dialup thank you riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #295

Moment of candor. Hillary says she represented Wall Street as a Senator from New York. pa28 Oct 2015 #296

Hillary - "I Represented Wall Street!" demwing Oct 2015 #297

that gave me indigestion AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #314

Sound Bite! demwing Oct 2015 #316

Hillary sounds petulent with Wall St. response. last1standing Oct 2015 #298

dream on hillary, those "bankers" you want to put in "jail" are funding your campaign. LOL nt Javaman Oct 2015 #299

H to Wall Street: "Cut it out you guys." AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #300

Is she channeling Ben Carson? bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #304

999 AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #312

Break Them Up! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #301

Ouch. "Wall St. regulates Congress" last1standing Oct 2015 #303

uh-oh...banking is not a good topic. let's make it climate change. magical thyme Oct 2015 #305

OK Clinton didn't do anything for climate change until 2009? RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #306

"I never took a position on Keystone till I took a position on Keystone" last1standing Oct 2015 #307

Please switch to *official thread #2*. Those on phones and dialup thank you riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #308

I have to say, this debate is pretty good so far. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #310

billionaires don't send their kids to community college or state universities. magical thyme Oct 2015 #311

it's too late for re-financing. if you haven't been able to pay it, it's been growing. magical thyme Oct 2015 #315

cripes...I couldn't get to the end of thread #1. I've been lost for half an hour! magical thyme Oct 2015 #317

I will Re-Post This JIC Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #319

Gross right wing ads during the CNN breaks. Quite disgusting. Overseas Oct 2015 #320

If there's a "breakout candidate" from this debate, it's O'Malley mr goodbeer Oct 2015 #322

OMG Webb just said Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #323

I am so glad Hillary and Bernie spoke frankly about Republican obstruction! Overseas Oct 2015 #324

The difference was blatant Geronimoe Oct 2015 #326

Tonight's biggest loser: OldRedneck Oct 2015 #327

I totally agree! nt Tumbulu Oct 2015 #328