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2016 Postmortem

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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:01 PM Nov 2015

The Second Democratic Debate Winner Was Bernie Sanders [View all]

Well, there's this

The Second Democratic Debate Winner Was Bernie Sanders
http://www.bustle.com/articles/123712-the-second-democratic-debate-winner-was-bernie-sanders

And that's really why what happened tonight was so impressive. Despite facing long odds, and a news cycle that'd been dominated by terrorism heading into the debate — an issue not very in-line with his core economic justice platform, and surely a spot of greater experience for Clinton — Bernie Sanders walked away the winner of the second Democratic presidential debate, scoring some raw hits against Clinton's Wall Street coziness, and speaking authoritatively and expansively about ISIS, the Middle East,

The very nature of the debate ended up changing late in the game — CBS ultimately decided to front-load questions about terrorism, in light of the attacks in Paris, France the night before, which left 129 people dead, including at least one American. This was easily foreseeable as a big advantage for Clinton — given her years as Secretary of State, and given Sanders' heavy reliance on his domestic policy agenda, it theoretically gave her a chance to come out swinging early on an area of deep career experience.

But she might not have expected Sanders to perform quite as formidably as he did. Despite initially pivoting away from ISIS back to economics during his opening statement, Sanders capably attacked Clinton for her past vote to authorize the war in Iraq, which he characterized as the necessary precursor to ISIS' rise in the Middle East. He also set her on her heels on the topic of her huge amount of Wall Street contributions, as Business Insider detailed, suggesting that her explanations about her large amount of Wall Street campaign contributions are "not good enough," and arguing that it's no coincidence why the financial industry prefers her over him.



All in all, it was a red-letter night for Sanders. The only true test is whether it helps him out with early-primary states, and that'll be borne out by polls in the coming days and weeks. But on the strength of his overall performance, and the authoritativeness he showed even outside of his core area of economic justice, he definitely ought to get a little bump.

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K&R nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #1
K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #2
Since the format is not a real debate fasttense Nov 2015 #3
Bernie did great zentrum Nov 2015 #4
K/R!!!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #5
Weren't we told last week that Hillary won last night's debate? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #6
even the WaPo's jaw was agape MisterP Nov 2015 #7
They are very out of touch with the people. All polls show that the American people sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #9
Yep. Hillary is toast. Helen Borg Nov 2015 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #13
And they didn't even ask about capital punishment. SoapBox Nov 2015 #14
Sabrina -- Great points! Akamai Nov 2015 #19
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Nov 2015 #8
Is your bug on steroids? cui bono Nov 2015 #23
A Better Bug - Right Click On The Bug - To Copy The Image Link - Then Paste In One's Sig Line cantbeserious Nov 2015 #25
Is this one immune to swatters and spray cans? cui bono Nov 2015 #26
Chuckles - Maybe Not - However The Nuisance Is Greater - The Spray Cans Could Run Dry cantbeserious Nov 2015 #27
Little bump? SmittynMo Nov 2015 #10
Good to know. nt LWolf Nov 2015 #12
Count down to new products available on the net... SoapBox Nov 2015 #15
"War, Gender and 9/11" cui bono Nov 2015 #24
Objective minds Plucketeer Nov 2015 #16
"According to Bustle dot com" JohnnyRingo Nov 2015 #17
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #18
following the debate last night, I made another contribution to Bernie! He did GREAT!!! Akamai Nov 2015 #20
K&R for Bernie!! secondwind Nov 2015 #21
bernie didn't win misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #22
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