2016 Postmortem

Matariki

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141. Oh, it's glaringly OBVIOUS.

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:18 PM

Nov 2015

There are a few people here who you can count on to be in certain threads immediately, posting with single minded purpose. Never really engaging in discussion but just sticking to some script with a determination that often defies logic. I figure they are either being paid by the post or just aren't very bright.

I'm not opposed to Clinton and will vote for her if/when she's in the general election, but I'm starting to really not like her campaign's tactics.

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SEIU Members OUTRAGED After Hillary Endorsement [View all] Segami Nov 2015 OP

I wonder how much pressure is being placed on Union Leadership to come out so early in the campaign sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #1

None upaloopa Nov 2015 #4

Are you Union Leadership? bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #10

I belong to 480 erlewyne Nov 2015 #24

What do you mean you "had" to? Matariki Nov 2015 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #31

So in all seriousness upaloppa angrychair Nov 2015 #33

Maybe some pockets are feeling the pressure Jarqui Nov 2015 #22

Oh, money DEFINITELY changed hands. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #103

My thoughts exactly, why so early? WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #29

PATCO, the Airline Pilots and Teamsters all endorsed Ronnie Raygun and look what it got them. fasttense Nov 2015 #136

Ancient Alien Astronaut theorists suggest unsubstantiated crappola too. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #163

Are you lost in Space? Lol! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #164

How many is "a good number"? brooklynite Nov 2015 #2

I think I read 300 signed a petition upaloopa Nov 2015 #7

Check my math... brooklynite Nov 2015 #17

Can you provide some reference to your estimate? nm floriduck Nov 2015 #35

Consider this: OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #42

LOL. What took you so long? DanTex Nov 2015 #3

So the 25% are demanding the 75% that want Hillary go along with them? MaggieD Nov 2015 #5

You mean they voted on it? zeemike Nov 2015 #40

And there ya have it! Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #54

They voted MaggieD Nov 2015 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #69

You never heard of Google? MaggieD Nov 2015 #72

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I. DONT. CARE. If you're ignorant about it MaggieD Nov 2015 #82

As an SEIU member I can tell you that is not true. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #109

Read their website and the press release. All the answers to your questions are there. George II Nov 2015 #154

Why should I? zeemike Nov 2015 #169

Why should you? Because you are the one questioning the manner in which they made their decision. George II Nov 2015 #176

So what you are saying is if you question zeemike Nov 2015 #178

And if you look at the SEIU's Facebook page you'll see that nearly EVERY comment is pro Sanders Matariki Nov 2015 #44

LOL! MaggieD Nov 2015 #67

As if 'laughing out loud' deflects the truth. Matariki Nov 2015 #143

And this type of swarming is exactly why social media polls suck and mean nothing Sheepshank Nov 2015 #165

Could you post a link to where you get those numbers? Matariki Nov 2015 #48

Nope MaggieD Nov 2015 #68

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Are you incapable of reading or googling? MaggieD Nov 2015 #74

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I don't care if you're ignorant about it MaggieD Nov 2015 #79

Most people back up their statements by pointing to their source Matariki Nov 2015 #98

please note no proof throughout the thread. marym625 Nov 2015 #110

^^THIS^^ n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #127

Oh, it's glaringly OBVIOUS. Matariki Nov 2015 #141

her campaign tactics haven't changed since she first ran for office. marym625 Nov 2015 #147

It unskewing endorsments..... Historic NY Nov 2015 #84

LOL! MaggieD Nov 2015 #86

It's embarrassing. MADem Nov 2015 #85

How is it bullying to express your opinion. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #101

Produce the poll. eom Fawke Em Nov 2015 #100

pretty awful thing to do to its members marym625 Nov 2015 #6

What? If 75% back Hillary they should upaloopa Nov 2015 #9

I wonder if Hillary supporters grasp how awful she is. marym625 Nov 2015 #11

My fav is publicly lying to Democrats... Segami Nov 2015 #14

So true. Sadly. marym625 Nov 2015 #15

Sanders voted for No Child Left Behind Renew Deal Nov 2015 #28

No, but thanks for playing! marym625 Nov 2015 #34

Nice catch. merrily Nov 2015 #38

thanks. marym625 Nov 2015 #49

+1 Bubzer Nov 2015 #43

Thank you! marym625 Nov 2015 #50

I call that slinging slop... Oilwellian Nov 2015 #88

I don't say anything without first researching. marym625 Nov 2015 #99

Obviously, since there has been no response, marym625 Nov 2015 #182

And thus proving out the lying meme Fairgo Nov 2015 #105

Ha! marym625 Nov 2015 #107

The ones here know but do not care because they aren't suffering. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #111

it's pretty despicable marym625 Nov 2015 #117

aka privilege and entitlement - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #130

Hillary had one of the most progressive records in Congress when she was Senator. pnwmom Nov 2015 #157

I don't hate. I'm just stating facts marym625 Nov 2015 #159

How about two attempts in two years to pass her unconstitutional flag desecration bill? merrily Nov 2015 #160

it's kind of amazing she's considered progressive by anyone. marym625 Nov 2015 #166

The plan of From, founder of the DLC, was to confuse people about "progressive." merrily Nov 2015 #167

Produce the poll. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #102

Produce the poll - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #129

Why? Polls of their members showed 72% of their members supported Hillary. pnwmom Nov 2015 #156

please link to the source marym625 Nov 2015 #158

The article says the Union heads say that. Are you saying they're lying? n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #168

I'm saying I want a source for that. marym625 Nov 2015 #170

The members have no reason to lie. Union may have a reason. I'm going with members truthful.nt merrily Nov 2015 #171

how many times in this thread have people asked for a source? marym625 Nov 2015 #174

A billion? It's a long thread, but I didn't realize it was that long! merrily Nov 2015 #175

it's a fact but I'm not fetching it for you. marym625 Nov 2015 #177

LOL! We crack us up! merrily Nov 2015 #180

Right. You're saying the union heads are lying. pnwmom Nov 2015 #172

link to the source.. marym625 Nov 2015 #173

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #8

They are fighting for $15, but are endorsing someone azmom Nov 2015 #12

#fightfor12 frylock Nov 2015 #20

#settleforthreefifty Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #57

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As soon as i heard of their support sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #13

As a big union supporter I am struggling with the possibility of doing the same. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #112

Maybe the executive board should change the name of the "fight for $15" campaign. pa28 Nov 2015 #16

Yea....LOL! Segami Nov 2015 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #77

... SidDithers Nov 2015 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #91

Here's to you... SidDithers Nov 2015 #94

"We prefer 12. We'll settle for 10." campaign. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #51

It's this. She's not going to FIGHT for $12. "Tell me something real". nt stillwaiting Nov 2015 #123

"Single payer? The revolution never came, Bernie." Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #125

We have seen the revolutionaries demwing Nov 2015 #128

K & R. The Clinton reach is vast. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #18

I'm neither outraged nor surprised Prism Nov 2015 #21

As a Duck fan floriduck Nov 2015 #37

I wondered if it is the revolving door. Clinton chose to privatize Mexico and Iraq Oil Industries DhhD Nov 2015 #60

�LET'S BE CLEAR: SEIU does not poll its members as to whom it should endorse. stupidicus Nov 2015 #23

No one knows...they refuse to provide a source. Bubzer Nov 2015 #46

Here is the source... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #142

+1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #113

Classic: the power elite (in the UNION) dosen't REALLY represent the Rank-in-file! Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #25

K&R LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #26

It looks like the way to go is to get local SEIU chapters to endorse Bernie Kalidurga Nov 2015 #27

There is a definite trend of union endorsements being rendered by the leadership Maedhros Nov 2015 #30

And the more we see this the less it means. She is racking jwirr Nov 2015 #61

Sort of like how Debbie Wasserman Schultz did it on debates and their timing? daybranch Nov 2015 #162

When a union has 2 million members, there's bound to be a few dozen unhappy with the leadership. George II Nov 2015 #32

Can you provide a link to the vote totals? Thanks in advance.... panader0 Nov 2015 #89

Can you or the OP provide a link with the number of SEIU members who are OUTRAGED? George II Nov 2015 #95

Produce the poll or STFU - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #131

The results of the SEIU canvas of members (it was NOT a "poll") is out there.... George II Nov 2015 #153

Life in WeathervaneLand: make a n outlandish claim bit refuse to support it when KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #179

If you got all the way down here, no doubt you read the OP as well. What you're asking for..... George II Nov 2015 #181

Well... Andy823 Nov 2015 #36

NO, but union resources get sent to a person the union doesn't support Demeter Nov 2015 #45

It's still the voters Andy823 Nov 2015 #53

Yeah, if they get the opportunity Demeter Nov 2015 #58

Why wouldn't they get the opportunity? Andy823 Nov 2015 #87

Well, then, this election should be an education for you Demeter Nov 2015 #119

#FightFor15 is on the SEIU twitter page. Isn't Hillary's stated position #LipServiceFor12? xocet Nov 2015 #39

#LipserviceFor12. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #52

Yep. SEIU's Facebook page told the story loud and clear Matariki Nov 2015 #47

Just as there is not thinking alike of minds here on DU there is a difference of opinions in every Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #55

"she has the middle class welfare at heart" Yallow Nov 2015 #92

Still on the RW talking point, I heard Bill Krystal saying the same. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #93

The powers that be monicaangela Nov 2015 #56

Why would SEIU support a 'Wall Street monger' Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #59

New Democrats in the revolving door riding on a Clinton third way win. DhhD Nov 2015 #63

Hedging their bets. They know Bernie will support them no matter what. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #114

My Husband Was A Union Member... Not SEIU, But From What I ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #62

Check out the last member of the roll; DWS DhhD Nov 2015 #64

Amazing, So Now THEY Just Advertise Who They Are, AND ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #150

They have a valid point - why endorse the one who doesn't want you to have more money Hestia Nov 2015 #65

Former member of SEIU 775 here. Voting for Bernie. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #76

But the overwhelming majority of them are not outraged Generic Brad Nov 2015 #78

There was no friggen vote! We are not outnumbered. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #115

Yeah, was never polled in my union either. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #139

I'm SEIU and I'm very disappointed in this endorsement. mike_c Nov 2015 #80

Imagine that. Workers betrayed by establishment leadership once again. Zorra Nov 2015 #81

What's a "good" number of members ? FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #83

Produce the poll - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #132

I'd ask SEIU to produce the poll. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #145

thats the way the country crumbles olddots Nov 2015 #96

It's the 1% vs the 99% MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #97

Actually it's 25% vs 75% Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #118

So where's the poll results? nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #120

And . . . crickets. There was NO POLL! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #133

Truth 'em, Manny! Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #134

According to the SEIU. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #146

... questionseverything Nov 2015 #151

... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #152

Question for SEIU members here. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #104

up thread someone said no, there was not a vote marym625 Nov 2015 #108

Nope. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #116

Of course not! Demeter Nov 2015 #121

the Pinto candidacy? MisterP Nov 2015 #148

Stuff like this might actually backfire, because these incensed union members PatrickforO Nov 2015 #106

I devoutly hope so. Demeter Nov 2015 #122

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #124

No consideration given to membership does not a good union make. lonestarnot Nov 2015 #126

Kick !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #135

Corrupt leadership, the Achilles Heel of unions, strikes again. [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #137

It's always good to see Labor management supporting their member's goals. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #138

The Entrenched Establishment Controlers, SoapBox Nov 2015 #140

Sanders Supporters Outraged NCTraveler Nov 2015 #144

I Knew . . . Gamecock Lefty Nov 2015 #149

The union said polls of its members consistently showed at least 72% for Hillary. nt pnwmom Nov 2015 #155

Leadership of Unions being pressured due to the rise of Bernie Sanders? Membership sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #161