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Demeter

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42. She didn't have to--her flunkies and running dogs did
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nov 2015
Fmr Obama Campaign Manager: It's Hillary's 'Turn' to Be President

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/fmr-obama-campaign-manager-its-hillarys-turn_836452.html

Feb 2, 2015--President Obama's former campaign manager, Jim Messina, said today that it was Hillary Clinton's "turn" to be the next president of the United States:

"We want Hillary Clinton to be the next president of the United States," Messina told an MSNBC host. "It's her turn and her time. I think she would be the right leader for this country moving forward. We're going to do whatever it takes to make sure she's the president of the United States."




‘It’s Never Anyone’s Turn to Be President’

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/it-s-never-anyone-s-turn-be-president_978588.html

The Scrapbook’s faith in the younger generation has just spiked upwards. A reader emails us an editorial from the Zephyr, student paper of the Brearley School, the very liberal prep school on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. A tip of The Scrapbook’s homburg to author and editor in chief Claire Kozak for the cogently argued and gracefully written piece, which we reproduce here:

I am, without question, a feminist. I have attended an all-girls school for nearly ten years, and I have had the remarkable opportunity to grow up in an environment that is dedicated to educating and empowering women. I believe that we should have a woman president. But when that day comes, I want that woman to be elected -because of her accomplishments. Not her gender.

However, Hillary Clinton’s popularity seems to be based on her identity as a woman. Since she announced her candidacy in a video where she claimed to be the voice of the “everyday American,” she has answered very few questions on substantial issues. She’s spoken about a small number of key issues including campaign reform and immigration—topics where her opinion will be popular among the Democratic community. But mainly, her selling point is speaking for the American people. This might be a noble cause, but it is a campaign strategy that doesn’t tell us much about her plans. And yet, she continues an unusually smooth and silent glide towards the White House. In early February, President Obama’s former campaign manager Jim Messina voiced the phrase that many have now made their own, “It’s Hillary’s Turn.”

This phrase has a complicated history. In past years, it has actually referred to the political tradition of the vice president or vice presidential candidate becoming the party’s nominee. However, the phrase has been appropriated by many of Hillary’s fans to signify her rightful claim to the oval office because it’s time for a woman president.

But the fact is, it’s never anyone’s turn to be president. The presidency is one of the most complex and demanding positions in the world, and when someone is chosen to lead the United States of America, it should be because they are the most qualified person for the job. Gender, race, socio-economic status, or religion should not factor into a presidential election.

Margaret Thatcher did not become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom because of her gender. She earned the votes of the British people with the clarity of her positions. She made it very clear what her policies were, and she won that office three times. Benazir Bhutto did not serve two terms as the Prime Minister of Pakistan because she was a woman—she led her country because voters thought she was the most equipped person to do so at the time. Golda Meir was elected as the fourth Prime Minister of Israel because of her politics and previous experience as the Minister of International Affairs. All of these women leaders were highly qualified and clear in their positions.

If anyone “deserves” to be president, it should be because of his or her policies, promises, plans for the country, and political record. It shouldn’t be because the government needs to diversify. Feminism and gender equality are relevant and highly important issues, without a doubt. But we cannot elect a woman president just because it is time for a woman to be president.

And when we do elect a female president, it should be because she is the most qualified person for the job, because she has won the hearts and minds of the American people with her promises and positions on national and international issues. As of now, Mrs. Clinton has barely campaigned. She has steered clear of major issues like America’s war on terror or her plans for the conflict in the Middle East, focusing instead on the feel-good notion of representing Americans. She has spoken only on issues of little substance, and has avoided controversial and personal topics that need to be addressed.

So, Mrs. Clinton, start answering questions. Start telling us your policies, instead of making general statements about how you want to be the voice of the American people. Show us why you are the most qualified person for the job. Once you can do that, you might get my vote. But you need to earn it, first.


Hillary's Turn: Inside Her Improbable, Victorious Senate Campaign

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http://www.amazon.com/Hillarys-Turn-Improbable-Victorious-Campaign/dp/0684873028

Hillary’s Turn by James Mann

Every secretary of state, we’re told, is going to be different from those who came before, but traditional demands inevitably take precedence...New secretaries of state always seek to portray their tenure as a bold departure from the immediate past. The secretary’s staff and the State Department press corps both have an interest in creating a striking image for the new occupant of our nation’s most prestigious Cabinet position. The secretary’s aides are eager to attract attention and positive coverage for their boss. The reporters must deal with editors, producers, and audiences interested in novelty. Yet both parties face a hurdle: The job of secretary of state is, by its very nature, one whose daily staples are diplomacy, bureaucracy, and (usually) continuity. Novelty, in other words, can be hard to come by. Given this problem, one standard approach has been to emphasize how different the secretary is from his or her predecessor.

Madeleine Albright, Bill Clinton’s secretary of state, established herself not merely as the first woman to be secretary of state but as someone blunter and more colorful than her predecessor, the gray, ever-circumspect Warren Christopher. After Colin Powell replaced Albright, his supporters boosted his image by pointing to his broader knowledge of military and security affairs: He already had served as both national security adviser and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. After Powell, who discovered that the key decisions on war with Iraq seemed to be made in his absence, it was said of Condoleezza Rice that it was nice to have a secretary of state who enjoyed a close relationship with the President.

Enter Hillary Clinton. Over the past decades, many politicians have run the Pentagon, most of them former members of Congress (Mel Laird, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Les Aspin, Bill Cohen, Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel)—no doubt because one of the principal tasks for any secretary of defense is to win congressional approval of the defense budget. Politicians have run the CIA as well: George H.W. Bush, Porter Goss, Panetta. But in 2009 Clinton became the first elected politician in nearly three decades to serve as secretary of state (and the last two before her, Ed Muskie in the Carter Administration and Christian Herter in the Eisenhower years, were only replacement secretaries who filled in at the tail end of their Administrations).

Clinton wasn’t close to the President. When she started the job, she had little experience in diplomacy. Almost inevitably, Clinton, her staff, and the reporters covering her turned her profile as politician into the defining feature of her role as secretary of state. As she crisscrossed the globe, Clinton hosted town meetings, met with civic groups, gave speeches, held press conferences, and sat for interview after interview. In truth, some of her predecessors had undertaken such activities, too; the concept of public diplomacy has taken on ever-greater importance in foreign policy over the past two decades. But it’s fair to say that none of her predecessors did as many public events as Clinton.

After all the sound and fury, what should we make of Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state? How much difference did all of her globe-trotting and public events make for American foreign policy? What did she accomplish in concrete terms?

Kim Ghattas’s new book, The Secretary: A Journey with Hillary Clinton from Beirut to the Heart of American Power, presents itself as an effort to answer these questions: MORE


The Secretary: A Journey With Hillary Clinton From Beirut to the Heart of American Power By Kim Ghattas • Times Books • 2013 • 368 pages • $27
Deal with it. Most people will vote for a different candidate than you, for many reasons. boston bean Nov 2015 #1
Is that why some GOP candidates beat Hillary in the polling FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #2
Your post chastising people for voting for a candidate will have absolutely ZERO effect on any boston bean Nov 2015 #3
Agree. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #35
Thanks Dem2 Nov 2015 #77
Including viability in the general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #6
Wow TransitJohn Nov 2015 #87
Who said that? CTyankee Nov 2015 #4
I love when you post from the hip! JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #68
+1 Agschmid Nov 2015 #84
You are confusing Democratic politics with republican politics Gothmog Nov 2015 #5
DWS disagrees with you. Tell her "thanks" if you see her. nt antigop Nov 2015 #11
In my view, if all those folks who say they will not vote pangaia Nov 2015 #44
It's an amazing tautology, isn't it? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #81
Sanders is not going to get these votes until he shows that he is viable in the general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #88
Has Hillary Clinton ever said or implied "It's My Turn"? KittyWampus Nov 2015 #7
It's Thursday. Thursday is "It's My Turn" complaining day. Wednesday is "Logo Arrow" day. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #8
Of course not. Hyperbole time Stuckinthebush Nov 2015 #10
I was wondering the same thing. The OP has the phrase in quotes. I'd like to see the actual quote. yardwork Nov 2015 #17
That is the actual quote.... quickesst Nov 2015 #51
OMG SHE REALLY SAID THIS?! LINKS PLEASE! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #9
Well, Ann Romney said that when Mitt was running for president. classof56 Nov 2015 #20
I think the OP is stuck in ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #23
The Zeal To Elect A Female President Has Overshadowed The Good Judgement Of Many cantbeserious Nov 2015 #12
DING DING DING ... We have a WINNER folks FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #13
And that is the sad truth. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #15
Yeah, because it can't be both. Women have terrible judgement! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #16
Qualifications isn't everything davidn3600 Nov 2015 #18
Clinton voted to authorize the use of force... uberblonde Nov 2015 #34
Accomplished WHAT for WHOM - surely you jest FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #19
What you said! Hepburn Nov 2015 #61
... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #14
Omigosh, that picture perfectly illustrates it..... Jackilope Nov 2015 #25
"our Corporate Fish" Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #28
The poster wrote a whole dissertation for me based on not understanding a metaphor. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #40
Just took a creative take on looking at the photo differently. Jackilope Nov 2015 #53
"Some times a cigar is just a cigar." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #55
Is that suppose to be some kind at Dig at Bill Clinton ? bahrbearian Nov 2015 #85
Some times a cylindrical object is a cylindrical object. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #86
... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #31
Question: The TPP's Intelectual Property Rights - does that include Pharma FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #36
Provide links where Hillary said it was "her turn." leftofcool Nov 2015 #21
Considering the easy path the DNC paved for her... davidn3600 Nov 2015 #29
George HW Bush said that... Punkingal Nov 2015 #22
Thanksgiving can be SO stressful!!! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #24
Technically Speaking anyone running for president thinks it is their turn. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #26
You've nailed! Every HRC devotee I have encountered supports her because it is "her turn." Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #27
A lot of the post here on DU suggest Sanders is saying it is his turn so he can start a revolution. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #30
Sanders doesn't have a sense of "Entitlement" just a purpose FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #32
He is saying it is time to have a revolution, that tells me if he is not elected it is time for Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #47
She never said that...you should delete this post GitRDun Nov 2015 #33
its like a reflection of the republican party's bubble. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #41
She didn't have to--her flunkies and running dogs did Demeter Nov 2015 #42
^^^this^^^ peacebird Nov 2015 #54
A very long response to say a very simple thing GitRDun Nov 2015 #62
Thanks for confirming she didn't say it Beaverhausen Nov 2015 #67
I haven't heard the phrase "running dogs" for a long time! yardwork Nov 2015 #69
The Weekly Standard? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #78
20 recs for this bullshit lie Beaverhausen Nov 2015 #37
+1 moobu2 Nov 2015 #38
And not a single piece of evidence that Hillary ever said this. yardwork Nov 2015 #70
In all fairness Depaysement Nov 2015 #39
You think so? Have you heard about the allegations of corruption in her "family" foundation? Demeter Nov 2015 #43
Guess you haven't heard how it's all been debunked? uberblonde Nov 2015 #46
That's not what the business press says Demeter Nov 2015 #49
Not "Debunked" at all and an active investigation FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #63
The whole state of Tex-Ass is corrupt! wolfie001 Nov 2015 #50
Have you heard the allegations she killed Vince Foster ToxMarz Nov 2015 #57
I think you are in the wrong Forum... Demeter Nov 2015 #58
Oh, I thought we were throwing around allegations here ToxMarz Nov 2015 #64
Yes, I read the article Depaysement Nov 2015 #73
Is that an actual quote? lame54 Nov 2015 #45
No, it's not. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #76
Who said "it's my turn"? I keep seeing people around here claiming that's what has been said... George II Nov 2015 #48
The only people saying that are Hillary's opponents. MineralMan Nov 2015 #52
So you don't think a WOMAN should be President! MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #56
Its not the Gender - its the Flip Flops FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #59
Oh! So a WOMAN can't change her mind?! MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #65
LOL! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #72
I don't think she's indicated that attitude personally. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #60
Using quotes for something someone never said... BlueCheese Nov 2015 #66
Silly me... MattSh Nov 2015 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueCheese Nov 2015 #75
The inference I make is it is okay to libel someone as long as you don't like him or her. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #80
... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #71
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #79
The imagination is a beautiful thing. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #82
"It's my turn"...... quickesst Nov 2015 #83
Thank you for the disdain bordering on hostility... brooklynite Nov 2015 #89
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