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Hortensis

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3. The blue wave elected people who represented the majorities
Sat May 25, 2019, 08:37 AM
May 2019

in their districts -- overwhelmingly. Where on the political spectrum "representative" lay varied, of course, by district. Some strongly liberal districts replaced moderate incumbents with people calling for stronger liberal solutions. BUT, extremely few farther left candidates were elected, and that's because they represent fringe elements, not majorities. The blue wave also showed overwhelmingly that people now understand the need to restore stability and competence to government.

No matter how much you argue against the electability of representative candidates, in favor of radical ones, you're going to be wrong. What you should be arguing for is the value of strong actions that fit within the ideological span of the voting majorities. NOT radical left ones -- those have always been rejected by majorities. Strong solutions that have strong voter support can help stabilize populations. Radical ones imposed without majority support risk destabilization and loss. People tend to understand that even without thinking.

As for Trump, he's naturally at least moderately conservative, especially socially, proven by decades of his own words and actions to be bigoted against many. However, he's too disordered, too focused on seeing everything as about himself, to be strongly politically ideological. His only ideology is his own greatness, "ME," and his goals are always somehow about "ME" and "I want."

I also strongly suspect the energy Trump can expend in antipathy toward minorities is limited for the same reason. Strong bigotry requires focusing outward on its target, and strong racists are frequently consumed with it, while Trump sees others in relation to himself. He is obviously capable of hate, for those who humiliate him or make him feel he's not immensely superior, like Obama, but I see no sign minorities have ever attained that power over his thinking.

Trump persecutes vulnerable groups both because it makes him feel powerful and because feeding his "red in tooth and claw" base gets him the cheers and adulation he craves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Donald Trump is a racist pig just like the far right ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #1
We should all vote like our lives depend on it, abqtommy May 2019 #2
The blue wave elected people who represented the majorities Hortensis May 2019 #3
Yes, some people think Trump is far right because it's LuvNewcastle May 2019 #8
Yes. He learned long ago by positive feedback where to Hortensis May 2019 #10
A majority of people Turin_C3PO May 2019 #24
Fwiw, universal healthcare is in the mainstream, has been for Hortensis May 2019 #25
2018 midterms Vidal May 2019 #4
Exactly.. what I said down thread.. Cha May 2019 #14
it is good to see the world from a deplorables perspective rampartc May 2019 #5
i agree. barbtries May 2019 #6
Policies matter but so do temperment and search for the truth. lark May 2019 #7
There's nothing so dangerous as a young, ignorant social studies teacher. Really. Efilroft Sul May 2019 #9
To paraphrase, if the far right think you're far right... nolabear May 2019 #11
Interesting discussion. Laelth May 2019 #12
I call BULL! trump is the Anti-Christ.. Cha May 2019 #13
By moderates eh? progressoid May 2019 #17
Yes, the majority of those who Cha May 2019 #19
Cool. I see you're gone from 45 seats flipped by moderates, progressoid May 2019 #21
I see you're deflecting from what I Cha May 2019 #27
He's right though. My deplorable co-worker told me a year ago that he is afraid of a Biden run. n UniteFightBack May 2019 #15
I will not vote out of fear. earthshine May 2019 #16
I will vote for whomever is most likely to defeat Trump, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #26
So, fear is one of your values? earthshine May 2019 #29
Where did I say I was supporting Biden? I'm still undecided, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #30
I pretty much agree with your paragraph. earthshine May 2019 #31
Trump is far right. Right and left have had shifting meanings through American history andym May 2019 #18
Thank You! If this isn't Cha May 2019 #20
Yes. Trump has highlighted the roadmap for a far right fascist to destroy the American Repubic andym May 2019 #22
Agree! Except that from what I've read the increase in Hortensis May 2019 #32
Donald Trump has no ideology. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #23
Basically agree. Any "ideology" would be all about him, Hortensis May 2019 #33
He's a hard-core conservative. TwilightZone May 2019 #28
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