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louis c

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Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:04 PM Mar 2019

The 2020 Election Will Be Decided By The Independent Voters [View all]

The polling numbers on Trump have been thoroughly consistent: The Republicans have been 90% behind him and the Democrats are more than 90% against him. Those numbers are not going to change.

The fluctuation is always in the middle. The self-described Independents. This group of voters went heavily for Trump in 2016 and swung back dramatically to the Democrats in 2018.

That's why I'm for a Biden-Harris ticket. These Independent voters will not swing wildly in either ideological direction. They want comfort. As the waning election days of 2016 approached, the New York Times proclaimed that the FBI found nothing to pin on Trump in regards to the Russian investigation and then Comey dropped that fucking letter appearing to reopen the Hillary investigation and linking the whole thing to that creep, Anthony Wiener. Hillary still carried the popular vote by 2 points, but the damage was done.

That's why I'm with Biden. I want a Biden-Harris ticket, not based on philosophy, but based on math. This formidable, squishy middle of the American voter needs to feel comfortable. Joe Biden brings back the nostalgia of the Obama-Biden years. Only fear, real or imagined, can make this election a horse race. I get the Progressive agenda, but this is not the time to take any chances. I'm sorry, but the Biden-Harris ticket is as close as we can come to the comfort zone which is sought by the very bland Independent voters, while still energizing our base and looking to the future with Harris as VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I love Kamala, but I have no qualms about the strength Joe could bring leading the ticket. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #1
I agree with the basic premise, but think Biden/Booker is an even stronger ticket for the win. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #2
Meh...also by Democratic and repug votes. We just have to keep... brush Mar 2019 #3
...which primarily involved winning with moderate candidates in swing districts. brooklynite Mar 2019 #4
Like here in CA where 5 great liberal newcomers swept the GOP out of the House in Orange County. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #5
and whichever side is more energized to have higher turnout IronLionZion Mar 2019 #17
Faulty premise- not all independents are "swing voters" or moderates Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #6
I never said "all". But a vast majority are, otherwise... louis c Mar 2019 #7
That's only a swing of 18 points Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #9
That 18 points is life or death in politics. And those are the voters that decide elections... louis c Mar 2019 #13
And if you focus on appealing, or at least not offending/alarming the 18% swing voters Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #15
Oh, I agree. If the people who don't get everything they want stay home, like they did in 2016... louis c Mar 2019 #18
Perhaps because they preferred the populist aspect of his message to the more incremental pitch JudyM Mar 2019 #27
These middle of the road Independents are closer to status quo voters... louis c Mar 2019 #28
The progressive base needs to do what is right Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #10
So are you saying leftist indies will either vote 3rd party... brush Mar 2019 #29
High voter turnout means Dem victories Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #30
or by an influx of new, younger, more progressive voters bigtree Mar 2019 #8
Actually all elections Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #11
"Independent" is hardly synonymous with "middle." Garrett78 Mar 2019 #12
I agree that 80% of Independents are really committed to one side or the other... louis c Mar 2019 #14
Anyone who voted Trump, has swung wildly in an ideological direction IronLionZion Mar 2019 #16
Texas is key imo. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #19
Beto as VP would be a winner The Mouth Mar 2019 #25
Biden/Harris for the win flamingdem Mar 2019 #20
UNLESS they're counted first. Then it'll be "decided by" Hortensis Mar 2019 #21
For a candidate, we need the one that scares the fewest people. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #22
It seems as though you understand my point louis c Mar 2019 #23
Yes. And we need to keep hammering it. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #24
exactly The Mouth Mar 2019 #26
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