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brush

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14. We've been through this before. Too many in the coutr won't vote for a socialist.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:57 PM
Feb 2020

Seems there is history you're not aware of.

Two generations (maybe a generation and a half—boomers and many GenXers) where schooled to fear commies/reds/the USSR, Red China, the domino theory, failed communist collectives, socialists, etc. Many still believe that and they make up quite a large swathe of voters.

I know many who are younger (the 18-35-year-olds you speak of) say that the stigma against socialism has lessened considerably but that may just be among their cohort. There are still millions, millions of voters who detest socialism and that large swathe of voters is not going to vote for Sanders if he gets the nomination—and among those voters, you can bet, are many Democrats, not to mention independents and never-trump republicans, all of whom we need to defeat trump in November.

Do we really want to take the chance that younger voters, who just don't vote as heavily as older ones, will make up for the millions who detest socialism and things imagined about it in their minds?

That's not a good bet. Let's make the election a referendum on trump's criminality, not one on socialism and Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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We'll all regret it if they get what they wish for. Squinch Feb 2020 #1
No we won't. OliverQ Feb 2020 #2
True. If you want Filthy Donnie reelected you won't regret it. Squinch Feb 2020 #3
There is absolutely no evidence Bernie would lose to Trump. OliverQ Feb 2020 #4
Right. That's why Filthy Donnie's followers are supporting BS. Makes total sense. Squinch Feb 2020 #5
They're supporting him because they know they'll get your kind of reaction. OliverQ Feb 2020 #7
Trump got impeached because he went after Biden...you surely can figure this out...and now he Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #11
Um... no. They're supporting him because he'd be easiest to beat. Squinch Feb 2020 #12
If Trump supporters think Bernie is the easiest OliverQ Feb 2020 #15
Kay. You go ahead and bet your life on that "opposites day" assumption. I don't think I will. Squinch Feb 2020 #16
The US will elect a sociopath before it elects a Socialist redstateblues Feb 2020 #18
Bernie has all the young voters. OliverQ Feb 2020 #19
Well, we have the sociopath now Mad cow Feb 2020 #29
And visa versa as well. Socialism is a tough sell for America. brush Feb 2020 #6
It's really not. OliverQ Feb 2020 #8
We've been through this before. Too many in the coutr won't vote for a socialist. brush Feb 2020 #14
And how are you supposed to make the election OliverQ Feb 2020 #17
America will not elect a Socialist. How well did the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics work? redstateblues Feb 2020 #21
Do you not know the difference between Democratic Socialists and Communists? OliverQ Feb 2020 #24
Who said Communist? Show me your " polls" that say a majority of Americans are redstateblues Feb 2020 #38
Try the no-witness impeacment trial. And Biden might not be the nominee. brush Feb 2020 #23
You do not know that. OliverQ Feb 2020 #26
Seriously? Repugs love socialism? That's laugable. Even if they did they wouldn't... brush Feb 2020 #31
Oppo research against Biden will be even easier. They already have it. OliverQ Feb 2020 #32
You do know Biden did nothing wrong, right? Or are you already falling or false Gouliani crap? brush Feb 2020 #37
The few democratic that I know blue cat Feb 2020 #34
My spouse hates Trump with a passion but she won't vote for A Socialist redstateblues Feb 2020 #39
That is why Trump supporters are fucking with our primaries to vote for Sanders... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #9
And Biden will never get my vote in the primary OliverQ Feb 2020 #10
"Her emails" would not have won the election if it hadn't been for Stein voters and Squinch Feb 2020 #13
Since Biden did nothing...I doubt it will matter...but the Sanders shit that the GOP have been Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #25
Hillary did nothing wrong either. Investigations cleared her like 4 times. OliverQ Feb 2020 #27
That is untrue...the private server was whatwas used with Comey ET AL...and she wasn't Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #35
Some Bernie folks forgot how we won back the House redstateblues Feb 2020 #40
That is right...we need a perceived moderate as our candidate. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #41
And conversely, TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #42
Are you for Warren? HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #20
Yes atm, but I don't think she's going to win. OliverQ Feb 2020 #22
I asked because you never post anything about her. Only Bernie. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #43
I'm not necessarily. I still like Warren better OliverQ Feb 2020 #44
bernie wont be the nom...but joe may not be either.....so trump* got himself impeached.. samnsara Feb 2020 #28
I'll just leave this here... 7wo7rees Feb 2020 #30
Remember when Trump challenged Sanders to a Debate? booley Feb 2020 #33
Bernie Brings the Regret. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #36
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