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mountain_man Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:40 PM
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66. who is carlos ledher?
carlos ledher rivas is a half german and colombian drug dealer who grew up in america not colombia.

he was not really excepted by Pablo escobar or the others.

I read the book by rodney stitch defrauding of america were he outlines some of the history of ledher.

the book metion that the CIA paid farc 1$ million to kidnap the daughter ochoa and carlos ledher. she was flown in by the cia to a hiding place. fabio ochoa became the treasurer of the medillin cartel. this act unified all the trafickers.

the kidnapped ochoa daughter was supposedly married illegally to spy master theodore shacklely.

It does mention the cia fly ledher to safety. He claim he miracously escaped.

also in the book other agents claim that they spotted carlos ledher on a zapata oil oiltanker. he was protected by dea agents and was deal dope with a farc leader (belonging to the group of his so called captures). zapata oil is own by george bush sr.

(carlos after being arrest) made contact with aides to Vice President George Bush, who had run the Central Intelligence Agency during the early years of the cartel. Over the next 18 months, senior officials from the FBI, CIA and other investigatory agencies interviewed Lehder.(he also visited personally noriega in prison when he threaten to spill the beans on bush).

was bush afraid of the zapata oil-ledher connection comming out. defrauding of america claim that the mossad was in on it too. and the ledher or somebody was put the star of david on the cocaine shipments.
this is interesting because ledher is suppose to be a nazi simpethizer.
he true may be one and is being used as a point guy.

defrauding america also mention that after ledher was fire from the drug operation in the bahamas the agent meet vesco and paid castro X amount of dollars for carlos's release. The book red cocaine stated that cuban intelligence had thouroghly been penetrated in 1960 by the soviet kgb. so castro through out his reign was more of figurehead.

would this explain why there are so many russians in the aig-carlos story that ruppert broke.

here is an excerpt from micheal rupport;

I went up to San Francisco a day early. With the Secretary of State documents in hand I went to see what I could find out about Capital Investment Group (CIG). Its address, 601 Gateway Blvd. is a new, large, approximately ten story office building near the San Francisco airport. The incorporation papers showed that CIG had been there for at least three years until their corporate filings ceased in 1997. I poked around until I found someone on the building staff who had been there in the mid 90s.
"Oh yeah," said the building employee who asked that I not use his name. "I remember the Russians. There was Boris and Vladimir and Natasha." He laughed. "Real thick accents. They treated the eighth floor like it was Russian territory. Everyone knew about the Russians. The FBI came and were investigating them. They said they might be KGB."

another ruppert excerpt"

Capital Investment Group having been founded by her in 1987 and agreed with the statement that she and Lehder were the only shareholders. An entry indicating that in 1995 she had been instrumental in negotiating Lehder's release from the Bureau of Prisons drew a nod. She made no comment about the fact that the report showed that she had been investigated by the FBI, Department of Justice, Department of Defense and the CIA by means of traditional investigation, "wiretaps" and informants." She also did not question the fact that the report showed her and Lehder as having multiple residences in Oakland California; San Francisco; Boca Chica, Florida; Salinas Ecuador; and Great Exuma, the Bahamas. Her net worth was conservatively "estimated" at $7,369,024.

another except by rupport that originated with george taylor;

"While in the Unit, Lehder developed new drug smuggling plans for after his release. He talked of a new frontier in the former republics of the Soviet Union. He and Gravano talked of forming a partnership in a new cartel using money given to them by our government. They asked me to join them and I turned them down.'

my analsys ledher is already connected to the russians through out the 80's he already probaly had the connections with russian based on the russian connection that he met in cuba. george taylor was restating something that was already probaly a fact.

I will show in my next post that beside being connent to zapata he has even closer connection to the CIA.



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