According to MSNBC Bush met today with all the voting American Cardinals!

[saracat]

Why? What freaking business is it of his? Something doesn't feel right.

[Arkana]

1. "Sure I can't git ya to use these here 'Diebold' machines?"

*wink wink*

What a disgusting opportunist that man is.

[xray s]

2. probably pitching Diebold machines

Bush wants to make sure there are no more anti-war Popes.

[dflprincess]

16. Or one that dares to criticize unrestrained

capitalism and greed.

[Avalux]

3. No it doesn't feel right -

read this article about the neocons wanting a Pope to bless their messes -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=307x135

[Tux]

4. He wants a Pope

That will tell Catholics that it is a sin not to vote Republician, to support liberals and thier businesses, and to think for themselves. And to say whatever he does is considered Christian.

I see the Pope gaining power as America turns into an empire.

[Totally Committed]

29. That's right...

he's lining up a block vote for a Pope that will be a rubber-stamp for the Regressive RW policies of the extremist Fundamentalist government the Republican Party is becoming.

This stinks to high heaven.

TC

[calimary]

42. Did you guys see this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=307&topic_id=135#136

I'm having trouble with the link, but what's posted there, as is, is eye-opening enough...

[htuttle]

5. Well, this is all starting to get sort of creepy...

Has a US President ever attempted to influence the choice of a pope before? Ever?

[ribrepin]

22. NO

I don't EVER remember a President meeting with the Cardinals before a conclave. It's beyond creepy.

[MichiganVote]

6. Here is a synopsis of Presidential politics and the Vatican

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050404/ap_on_go_pr_wh/pope_us_presidents

[Alizaryn]

7. Read this Wayne Madsen article and then shudder ...

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/040505Madsen/040505madsen.html

[Al-CIAda]

17. wonderful...-nt

[NVMojo]

23. once again, the feckwads interfere in personal matters of the people...

instead of doing their own fecking jobs.

[loudsue]

31. Madsen nails it again! Great article.

I've had a really bad feeling about the forces of evil getting the new pope elected, and yet, most of Europe seems to be kicking the neocon buzzards OUT of office, more often than not, lately.

But the neocon demons have seen the benefit of taking over churches for many years now, and many, many churches have fallen to the forces of darkness, often for (faith based) money. In fact, the forces of evil have their greatest stronghold in organized religion, via the churches. The Catholic church would be their "grand prize". If they can get "their man" in as Pope, at this point in history, there may well not BE much more "history" to be had.

If I was "Satan", the churches WOULD be the place I would try to win over. Once you have the churches and the voting machines (to control who is elected to rule), you don't NEED to bother with individual souls...you can just DICTATE what masses of people WILL do and think, as if their safety and salvation depended on it.

:kick:

[calimary]

43. AHA! That's the link. I posted about it above. Thanks!

And yep, it's a humdinger, alright. Don't put ANYTHING past these people, guys.

And loudsue, I agree with you. It gives me a really awful "Antichrist-like" feeling in the pit of my stomach.

[KittyWampus]

8. Saracat, This Makes Me Feel Something Isn't "Right" Too

brrrrrrrr

[Richard D]

9. Pope Jeb?

[AntiCoup2K4]

35. Jeb's not a cardinal, so he would have to be promoted pretty fast.

But then I wasn't aware he was even Catholic until this week. And there's that little matter of him being married with 2 kids (or is it three?)

[saracat]

40. Doesn't matter. Any male Catholic can be Pope!

[TriMetFan]

10. As a Catholic This is One Thing

beside the child abuse by priest that really has me FUCKEN PISSED OFF. What the hell is that Mother of a piece of Crap doing meeting with our Cardinals? Yes I got to say this does not feel right. I just hope that the American Cardinals understand that the Neo-Catholics are a very tiny group in our American Catholic Church.

[n2mark]

13. Heard on Air America today

that he met with the cardinals and they were seeking his advice, bet you anything that shrub had his wallet open during the meeting. I thought this would happen when I heard shrub would be attending the funeral, he has his nose in everyone's business.

[wicket]

11. What the hell is he doing???

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

12. BREAKING: Negroponte named Pope in landslide vote

1st use of touchscreens by vatican ever

[Alizaryn]

44. LOL

[Donna Zen]

14. What's he doing?

Simple

One of the major names up for Pope is the head of Opus Dei.

Names we know:

Santorum

Scalia

Thomas

Novak

Eunice Shriver

This is NOT tinfoil hat mutterings, this is simple fact.

[KittyWampus]

kick

[KittyWampus]

27. kick

[tsuki]

15. I guess he wants to name the Pope now.

[zann725]

18. Of course he's going to DEMAND who's chosen. That's the TRUE reason

for his trip. Did you see that look of glee on his face when he and Laura were sitting there...near the Pope's body. His was NOT the face of a mourner, but of a spoiled dictator about to globally get his way again.

And because he SHALL, my bet is NO Italian Cardinal will make the final "cut." I'm betting more on the German or Austrian candidates. Think of the mass riches of the Catholic Church (and all that GOLD in the Cistine Chapel alone). Do you think for a moment that Shrubco will wait long to pillage and plunder the wealth there?

And now Monaco's leader has "passed" too? So much wealth and Power in flux.

[ngGale]

19. Pope vote fixing...n/t

[burrowowl]

20. He chatted with 117

of them!?

[NVMojo]

21. as a recovering Catholic, this is a frightening picture to imagine

[bklyncowgirl]

24. This is disturbing

The Pope is one of the few world leaders with the moral authority to stand up to the President of the United States. Pope John Paul was a thorn in the Shrub's side and my personal take on his insistance on attending the Pope's funeral was as much to triumph over the old man's death as it was to curry favor with American Catholics.

Would Bush like a Pope with a world view closer to his own in the Vatican?

Is the Pope Catholic?

[mrgorth]

25. Opus Dei.

[Gin]

26. Presidential pardons for the whole group...soon to be announced.

g

[Algorem]

30. Just saw commercial for "The Insider" TV show,said they're doing a part

of today's show on Opus Dei.It's on at 7 pm here.I'm not expecting much from them,though.

[Algorem]

45. They did do a thing on it

http://www.theinsideronline.com horrible show and website.

[Edgewater_Joe]

28. GanGuckgonnert's New Job?

Okay, cheap shot ...

[donkeyotay]

32. The media's pope hype is unseemly at best

The crooks are making somekindof power deal. If Jeb or Wolfie are named pope, I'm going to get suspicious.

BTW, the history channel had a great series on popedom that will really make you look twice at all this religious rhetoric.

[kentuck]

33. Whomever they choose, Bush will say that is who he was supporting

so he can keep making inroads into the Catholic vote. Never a waking moment that they are not thinking of what is politically advantageous.

[AntiCoup2K4]

34. If Chimp is the Antichrist, then he needs his False Prophet

And since the False Prophet will eventually head the Antichrist's own bastardized world religion, then a good place to start would be with the leader of the largest Christian denomination.

[Lerkfish]

37. ding! ding! ding!

we have a winner.

[AlCzervik]

36. The Pope was not a fan of Bush

and seeing how he appointed many of those 117 i'm not too worried about it.

[donsu]

38. this is what the bushgang is doing to the american cardinals

bully, bribe, blackmail, threaten

but smirk is doing it in an ever-so-nice way followed by his uncontrollable smirk.

[zann725]

52. Bully all he wants, I hear when his image appeared on overhead monitors

at the Pope's funeral, the crowd "boo-ed" him several times.
(Yet THAT wasn't covered on the "glossy" version of the funeral, that MSM covered. Wonder why not?)

[onenote]

39. quit panicking - he just wanted to get Kurt Warner's autograph

onenote

[Lisa]

41. maybe he's totally lost it and wants them to choose HIM!

I can just imagine him, fantasizing about being Urban II and leading a medieval-style crusade, to bring about Judgement Day.

[NAO]

46. Bush gave the Pope a medal.

Did anyone else find that as ridiculous as I did?

I mean Bush gave the Pope a medal. The Pope.

I imagine Bush saying something stupid and arrogant, something like,

"Good job, your holiness. Keep on Popeing. Here is this metal. It is a very high honor to receive this metal from the great and powerful and important President of the United States. Now could ya please lay off that anti-war crap - it's hurting me in the polls."

[Vickers]

47. He thought it was the baseball team

:spank:

[Orangepeel]

48. eh, I bet that will backfire

they don't want to be told who to vote for. And the non-American cardinals with whom he didn't meet SURE don't want to be told who to vote for.

[borg5575]

49. You failed to mention that Clinton met with them too.

And why in the world did Clinton even agree to go over there with Bush? Every time I saw a picture of Bush and Clinton over there together it just made me want to puke. What is our Democrat former president doing?

[saracat]

50. I didn't know he did! But he shouldn't meet with them either.

This is none of their business and it isn't their place!JMHO>

[bvar22]

51. Does anyone know if bush*...

...actually danced on the Pope's grave today.

I heard that he had sworn to do so after the Pope called him the Anti-Christ.