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JoanofArgh's JournalNobody Cares Who Lost Afghanistan It's not a political liability for Joe Biden - Bill Scher
https://twitter.com/billscher/status/1428080113774628866?s=20Reagan's approval stayed steady after the Lebanon withdrawal
Ford's approval went up after the Fall of Saigon
JFK's approval was stratospheric after Bay of Pigs
Why Biden's fate likely isn't tied to Afghanistan. My
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We did trainand there was no attention paid to thisour army had a unit in there training, the president said, and made a very capable military. But some units of the army refused to take up arms against some of their same ethnic background, or religious background. And so it was agreed that there was no longer any point and we withdrew.
That isnt President Joe Biden in his Monday address about the Afghanistan withdrawal. Its President Ronald Reagan in his April 1984 press conference after the U.S. military withdrawal from Lebanon. Seven months later, Reagan was re-elected in a landslide.
The only difference between what Reagan said in April 1984 and what Biden said Monday is that Biden put it even more straightforwardly than the president remembered as the Great Communicator. The Afghan military collapsed, Biden said,
Its a cold political truth that voters dont punish American presidents for policy failures beyond American borders so long as the failures dont hurt Americans directly. Even in the 1952 election, when Dwight D. Eisenhower famously echoed Sen. Joe McCarthys accusation that the Democrats lost China, his knockout blow against Adlai Stevenson wasnt that half a billion people in a far-off country were now subject to Communist rule. It was that nearly two million U.S. soldiers fought in Korea, and more than 36,000 of them died there. Ike pledged to bring the troops home.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/08/18/nobody-cares-who-lost-afghanistan/
Pakistan's Pyrrhic Victory in Afghanistan Islamabad Will Come to Regret Aiding the Taliban's Resur
Pakistans security establishment is cheering the Talibans recent military gains in Afghanistan. The countrys hard-liners have funneled support to the Taliban for decades, and they can now envision their allies firmly ensconced in Kabul. Pakistan got what it wished forbut will come to regret it. A Taliban takeover will leave Pakistan more vulnerable to extremism at home and potentially more isolated on the world stage.
The end of the United States 20-year war in Afghanistan also promises to mark a turning point in its relationship with Islamabad. Pakistan has long veiled its ambitions in Afghanistan to maintain relations with Washington, but that balancing actseen in Washington as a double gamewill prove impossible in the event that a reconstituted Islamic emirate is established in Kabul. This would not be the vindication that Pakistans military is expecting: the Taliban are less likely to defer to Pakistan in their moment of triumph, and the Americans are not likely to reconcile with the group over the long term. Pakistans nightmare scenario would be to find itself caught between an uncontrollable Taliban and international demands to rein them in.
The Talibans victory will have an equally disastrous effect on Pakistans domestic peace and security. Islamist extremism has already divided Pakistani society along sectarian lines, and the ascendance of Afghan Islamists next door will only embolden radicals at home. Efforts to force the Talibans hand might result in violent blowback, with Pakistani Taliban attacking targets inside Pakistan. And if fighting between the Taliban and their opponents worsens, Pakistan will have to deal with a new flow of refugees. A civil war next door would further damage the countrys struggling economy. Pakistani critics of their countrys involvement with the Taliban have long feared and predicted this scenario. But Pakistans generals see the Taliban as an important partner in their competition with India. Weak civilian leaders in Islamabad, meanwhile, have acquiesced to a policy that prioritizes the elimination of real or perceived Indian influence in Afghanistan.
Pakistans security establishment has long obsessed about imposing a friendly government in Kabul. That fixation is rooted in the belief that India is plotting to break up Pakistan along ethnic lines and that Afghanistan will be the launching pad for antigovernment insurgencies in Pakistans Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regions. These fears have their roots in the fact that Afghanistan claimed parts of Balochistan and Pakistans Pashtun regions at the time of Pakistans creation in August 1947. Afghanistan recognized Pakistan and established diplomatic relations a few days later but did not acknowledge the British-drawn Durand Line as an international border until 1976. Afghanistan also remained friendly with India, leading Pakistan to allow Afghan Islamists to organize on its territory even before the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in 1979.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/afghanistan/2021-07-22/pakistans-pyrrhic-victory-afghanistan?utm_campaign=tw_daily_soc&utm_source=twitter_posts&utm_medium=social
There are now 3 Dem led subcommittees on the withdrawal from Afghanistan
https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1427691039750565898?s=20New: Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Menendez (D-N.J.) says hell seek a full accounting of the Biden admins flawed execution of the U.S. withdrawal.
That makes *three* Dem-led Senate committees vowing oversight of how the Biden team bungled the withdrawal.
Menendez: I am disappointed that the Biden administration clearly did not accurately assess the implications of a rapid U.S. withdrawal. We are now witnessing the horrifying results of many years of policy and intelligence failures.
Menendez says the review will also look at how the Afghan army collapsed so quickly, calling it astounding.
Congress was told repeatedly that the Afghan Defense and Security Forces were up to the task The American and Afghan people clearly have not been told the truth
I hope they investigate Trump and Ghani as well . Why put the blame entirely on Biden when they don't know what happened?
This comment about the press is the truth
https://twitter.com/ArmandoNDK/status/1427616835080441856?s=20MSNBC not happy that evacuation today is orderly and not chaotic.
https://twitter.com/andy_farquhar/status/1427623870983458822?s=20
Early this morning the Washington Post quietly downgraded the situation from catastrophic to "eerie tension."
CNN and MSNBC are no better this morning. From a Marine who served in Afghanistan
From a marine, who served in Afghanistan
https://twitter.com/STEMthebleeding/status/1427458730212438025?s=20
Man, I picked a good day to mostly stay off this site today.
The number of bad takes by people who couldn't find Afghanistan on a map were coming fast and thick, and simultaneously ignoring the actual experts, ie those of us who survived by understanding Afghanistan is NOT the west
"We trained the army for 20 years!"
The average ANA service time was measured in weeks and months before they'd disappear, not years.
Very few "veterans" in the ANA, and those who did exist were often reassigned to be VIP guards or other non-infantry roles
"They had planes and helicopters!"
Most of them are decades old, lacking crucial maintenance, and trained crews to repair them. There was talk of the ANA getting maintained in Qatar, but that's obviously not a viable strategy.
"We should've trained them better!"
We taught them to read and write, drive, talk on comms, AND how to fight. Largely, they ignored our lessons, preferring to look "manly" on Liveleak vs being combat effective.
Plus it turns out they weren't getting paid by the Afghan govt.
"But the govt has fallen!"
For most people outside of Kabul and Kandahar, life doesn't change much. They're a tribal people, the Imam is their "leader", and his words ARE the law.
There is no patriotism in Afghanistan as we know it, their loyalty is to their village and Imam.
"We should've trained women to fight!"
The Afghani people never would've recognized a military force comprised of women regardless of their effectiveness. The Afghan govt would actively sabotage them, and it would embolden the Taliban that we were corrupting the country.
"We should've evacuated refugees sooner!"
You can't start an evacuation of a nation's citizens until the govt allows it. We've learned that Ghani refused, which isn't surprising, given what it would've resulted in: his death at the hands of the Taliban.
I can keep going, but the fact is there were 3 options:
1) we left in May, fewer refugees get out, Taliban retake Afghanistan in days
2) We leave now, packing 800 refugees into a C17 made for 100, meaning more refugees survive, Taliban take the country.
3) 200k more US troops.
2500 US troops since January didn't "hold the Taliban", because there were no engagements. It wasn't a deterrent, because most of those forces were transpo and support, not infantry.
It would take 50-75x that much to actually secure the country. 150-200k infantry forces.
And let's just say for giggles, the US takes the country back.
Then what? We put in another puppet govt that the Taliban can buy off while they're rebuilding in Pakistan?
Train another force that the corrupt govt won't pay so they can be bribed to surrender immediately?
Or the alternative, Afghanistan becomes a "US protectorate", mimicking the Philippines for the next 50 years.
But that ignores the rub: The Afghani people, unlike the Philippines, Koreans, Tawainese- didn't ask for democracy.
we just showed up
I'm Seeing Healthy People Die Every Day': COVID Spirals in Mississippi
On Monday, Aug. 2, a 34-year-old woman in Gulfport, Mississippi, started feeling dizzy at work. She tested positive for COVID-19 a few days after that.
By the next Sunday, she was dead. Her husband, also in his mid-thirties, died from coronavirus this past Saturday, according to Brian Switzer, the local coroner.
These are deaths I wouldnt have seen a month or two ago, Switzer, the Harrison County Coroner, told The Daily Beast. Im seeing significantly younger folks this time around, but theres still this idea that if youre young and dont have comorbidities, youre not going to die.
But as the Delta variant pushes the states entire health-care system to the brink of collapse, those coming face-to-face with COVIDs victims say the virus target has changed dramatically, from older to younger Mississippiansoften healthy, and virtually always unvaccinated.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/coroners-say-covid-19-is-spiraling-in-mississippi-and-younger-unvaccinated-people-are-the-ones-dying?source=articles&via=rss
Looks like EVERYBODY'S getting vaccine booster shots! Breaking from WaPo
The Biden administration is planning to announce that all Americans who have received the coronavirus vaccine will need booster shots to combat waning immunity from the immunizations and the highly transmissible delta variant that is sparking a surge in covid-19 cases throughout the nation, according to four people familiar with the decision.
The administrations health and science experts are coalescing around the view that people will need the boosters eight months after they are fully vaccinated, according to the people who requested anonymity to discuss a decision not yet public. The decision is likely to be announced as soon as this week.
The actual administration of the boosters would not occur until mid- or late September, after Pfizers application for additional shots for the general public is cleared by the Food and Drug Administration, the individuals said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/16/booster-shot-coronavirus/
Lake Mead -the nation's largest water reservoir - is only at 40% capacity
https://twitter.com/NickKnudsenUS/status/1427390450483089408?s=20
Lake Mead - the nations largest reservoir - is at only 40% capacity, triggering a declaration of water shortage for the first time ever.
Arizona will lose 18% of its annual water apportionment and Nevada will lose 7%.
Some in the military are speaking out, blaming Biden. Anonymously , of course.
Trumpers have been calling for Gen. Milley to resign. Probably him.
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1427345899152453636?s=20
Nearly a half dozen U.S. officials (across the administration) tell Reuters that there is increasing frustration and even anger with the way Biden has handled the evacuation from Kabul, saying his White House wasted too much time in the months leading up to last week.
Officials say the military for weeks had been telling the White House that they were ready to do more, in terms of basing and flights from evacuating Afghans, but a decision didn't come until it was too late.
Officials tell Reuters that an address from Biden today, well after the Taliban military advances began, is far too late. They added that some of the defenses given by the White House, including NSA Sullivan earlier today, are baffling.
https://twitter.com/arianapekary/status/1427350548341198850?s=20
Interesting Twitter thread from Ajmal Ahmady, Central Bank Governor of Afghanistan
https://twitter.com/aahmady/status/1427265049668636674?s=201/The collapse of the Government in Afghanistan this past week was so swift and complete - it was disorienting and difficult to comprehend.
This is how the events seemed to proceed from my perspective as Central Bank Governor.
2/Although much of the rural areas fell to the Taliban over the past few months, the first provincial capital to fall was just 1 week and two days ago!
On Friday August 6th, Ziranj fell. Over the next 6 days, a number of other provinces fell - particularly in the north.
3/There were multiple rumors that directions to not fight were somehow coming from above.
This has been repeated by Atta Noor and Ismael Khan.
Seems difficult to believe, but there remains a suspicion as to why ANSF left posts so quickly. There is something left unexplained
4/Currency volatility and other indicators had worsened, but DAB were able to stabilize the macroeconomic environment relatively well during the last week - given the deteriorating security environment.
Then came last Thursday
5/I attended my normal meetings. Ghazni fell in the morning.
I left work, and by the time I went home - Herat, Kandahar, and Baghdis also fell. Helmand was also under serious attack
6/Friday - we received a call that given the deteriorating environment, we wouldnt get any more dollar shipments.
People spread rumors that I had fled on Friday.
On Saturday, DAB had to supply less currency to the markets on Saturday, which further increased panic.
7/Currency spiked from a stable 81 to almost 100 then back to 86. I held meetings on Saturday to reassure banks and money exchangers to calm them down. I cant believe that was one day before Kabul fell
8/On Saturday night, my family called to say that most government had already left. I was dumbfounded.
A security assessment accurately forecast Taliban arrival to Kabul within 36 hours and its fall within 56 hours
I got worried & purchased tickets for Monday as a precaution
9/On Sunday I began work. Reports throughout morning were increasingly worrisome. I left the bank and left deputies in charge. Felt terrible about leaving staff.
But arrived at airport & saw that Mohaqeq, Rahmani, Massoud, etc were already there! Head of parliament seems content
10/Saw VP Danish leaving - reportedly for Qatar. By then it was rumored that VP Saleh had left.
Ministers + others were waiting for a Fly Dubai & Emirates flights. Both were cancelled
I secured a Kam Air flight Sunday 7pm. Then the floor fell: the President had already left
11/I knew right then my flight would be cancelled and there would be chaos.
As expected employees & military left posts. Everyone ran through gates to on Kam Air flight. 300+ passengers boarded for a 100-seat plane.
The plane had no fuel or pilot. We all hoped it would depart
12/However, I decided to disembark and spotted another military plane. It was surrounded by people trying to board, while the guard forces held people back and boarded their embassy staff.
There was a rush. Some shots were fired. Somehow, my close colleagues pushed me on board.
13/It did not have to end this way. I am disgusted by the lack of any planning by Afghan leadership. Saw at airport them leave without informing others.
I asked the palace if there was an evacuation plan/charter flights. After 7 years of service, I was met with silence
14/During last days, I feared not only risks related to Taliban, but fear of transition period once there is no chain of command.
Once presidents departure was announced, I knew within minutes chaos would follow. I cannot forgive him for creating that without a transition plan
15/ I did not criticize them until now, but key figures Fazly & Mohib were too inexperienced in their roles, & was Presidents failure that he never recognized such weaknesses.
He himself had great ideas but poor execution. If I contributed to that, I take my share of the blame.
And this. I will be trying to support any requests for assistance, but worry that given my personal experience at airport that any support for friends and colleagues be limited
Did I have a reason to worry? This is the text someone sent me:
Taliban come to and were looking for you. They were asking about Ajmal Ahmady DAB Governor.
Whatever their personal views, I also had many personal enemies. Or maybe they just wanted to greet me
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